Atheist Professers - page 18

:confused: Hi everyone! I'm kind of new here, and I have a question: Right now I'm in A&P and my professor is an all out atheist. I realized when I decided to go the nursing route I would... Read More

  1. by   sbic56
    Peeps

    To me, an agnostic, agnosticism means that I am open to many possible beliefs and that my belief system may change as I experience life. I have no personal god, but do not refute that one or many may exist. Man cannot offer proof of god, so I do not believe in one. As far as I can see, man has created god(s) for their own solice and comfort. I find religious dogma constricting, limitting the expanse of what I may choose to believe in. My belief system is at the same time simple and complex. I am very spiritual, but don't feel I can sit here in my physical body and purport to know what happens before this existance or what will occur afterwards and don't understand how anyone can think they do know. Very simply stated, I believe anything is possible, but nothing is definite.
  2. by   Love-A-Nurse
    originally posted by mark_ld_rn
    see thats what i am talking about !threads like these always deteriorate because people can not stick to the given topic and must try to convert others or change there minds. the post was about a professors actions in class not whether or not we believe in god or religon.that is a topic all by itself
    mark, although i got off track too, i agree with you except i did not see where anyone tried to "convert" others but rather explain their "position".

    depending on the topic being discussed, at some point, sometimes another topic will be brought up if only for an example of experiences to make known ones views or to make for clearer understanding.

    Last edit by Love-A-Nurse on Aug 16, '02
  3. by   Love-A-Nurse
    originally posted by sbic56
    mark_ld_rn

    with all due respect, except for the fact that the thread went off topic, i don't think any big travesty has occurred here. perhaps, a new one should have been started for debate pruposes. whenever a topic with religion or politics comes up there is bound to be some debate. i, for one, think it is great, so long as it is kept civil and doesn't become a pissing contest. my 2 cents.
    sbic, we agree on something! well said.
  4. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    by Sibc

    I find religious dogma constricting, limitting the expanse of what I may choose to believe in. My belief system is at the same time simple and complex. I am very spiritual, but don't feel I can sit here in my physical body and purport to know what happens before this existance or what will occur afterwards and don't understand how anyone can think they do know.

    I also find religious dogma to be constricting. I always follow that up when I question why it feels restricting, though I think it is foolish to accept it without question.

    I don't know for sure what awaits after death, but I will not accept that there isn't sufficient evidence before us that we can't speculate.
  5. by   sbic56
    I don't know for sure what awaits after death, but I will not accept that there isn't sufficient evidence before us that we can't speculate.

    Peeps

    I totally agree.
  6. by   sbic56
    Sbic, we agree on something! Well said.

    LPN,Future, RN

    It had to happen at some point!
  7. by   emily_mom
    My A & P II professor was an atheist and all around just an insensitive jerk. He would make off comments like "You may as well buy your burial plot" when talking about pancreatic cancer. It was particularly distressing to me b/c my Mom had just died of it a few months earlier. He was just a jerk, and now I'm going to have him for Patho this semester. Thrills...

    Kristy

    This is for you Mom....Dec. 4, 1942-Sept. 7, 2000.
  8. by   micro


    So this thread keeps trying to go off into the woods to die, but it keeps getting drug back out again to be discussed or disgusted again. Question? Aren't the issues the same as they always have been?
    Humankind should not even try to argue such sensitive topics as politics, religion and sex. Because there is only the RIGHT AND THE WRONG WAY!!!!!!!!!
    One of the endless debates and diatribes!!!!!!!

    Just a few more thoughts of micro, please note micro's tongue in(or out of cheek attitude) attempted to portray here. Late into this thread, oh, well have a beer!!!!! Coffee for me.
    Back to topic
    1) Unclear about the original intent of this thread, way back to post #1. Because unless I know a person, typed words are just that. But the statement, indicated that an A&P professor shared and forced their belief system "down the throats" of their students.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>This is college folks. You are all adults. This is not grade school. When "science" is taught, sometimes it is not the "professor" that is in the wrong, but the perception of the students. Possibly the belief systems of some of the student listeners in the class are so RIGID, that they have difficulty in even listening to another point of view.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Words such as evolution, scientific creationism, dna evidence, "God", carbon dating, faith, the 'bible', darwinism...........(and the list could go on and on) evoke such strong sentiment in the human animal(oops, the human being).....
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>I know when I attended A&P, I did learn of my professor's belief system, because I got to know my professor outside of class and in this shared more than in class. But in class, my professor had to make a point to keep points focussed so that the class/students would not turn it into a debate issue. Why does teaching facts such as A & P, microbiology, biology, dna evoke such hot debate.

    2) Indeed!!!! Will have to agree my friend, very well spoken and I do so admire eloquence in speech. And to many here, you have spoken well. To debate or not to debate is the question.
    But to inflame, derail, insult, and outright condemn another person just because they are or are not.......well, the nature of the beast(this human animal).............
    Micro includes herself in this race of humankind, even though dna origins unsure (denoting micro's tongue in and out of cheek attitude)

    3) Micro hails from very religious roots. Thus belief in God in a very specific nature is a part of micro. Will not get into what part here, but I do understand "Both sides now".
    And I do respect and love dearly certain people in my life, that are very rigid in their belief system. There is indeed no other way(to them).
    But what a person believes is just that, a belief. Faith in a substance unseen. Beliefs are true to the believer. Faith is very private and should be respected........from all realms.
    I sometimes have wished the issues were as cut and dry as to how I was raised........but they are not........or maybe this is part of my belief system.........


    Micro in micro's never ending quest for answers that make sense to micro. Perceptions, folks, .............all is perception.

    misperception/perception
    intolerance/tolerance
    disrespect/respect
    closed/open


    gonna post this anyway, even though not eloquent as many here.......
    oh, well if noone understands micro's thread........well, then maybe micro's thread will help to serve in the death of this thread

    Last edit by micro on Aug 16, '02
  9. by   Love-A-Nurse
    micro, i do enjoy your serious side. you did better than you think with this post.

  10. by   Love-A-Nurse
    micro, it is not that i don't enjoy your humor, i get a clear understanding when you are serious and they (your posts)are enlightening. i needed to clarify.
  11. by   researchrabbit
    Originally posted by micro

    This is college folks. You are all adults. This is not grade school. When "science" is taught, sometimes it is not the "professor" that is in the wrong, but the perception of the students. Possibly the belief systems of some of the student listeners in the class are so RIGID, that they have difficulty in even listening to another point of view.

    gonna post this anyway, even though not eloquent as many here.......
    Pshaw! Who told you you weren't eloquent? Don't believe 'em! Maybe they meant "elegant" and misspelled it?

    I agree strongly with the point above. You get ALL TYPES as professors. Your job is to get through the class with a passing grade. Theirs is primarily to teach you the material and secondarily to open your mind to the world around you (which, incidentally, is why you have to take all those electives).
  12. by   Sarahstudent
    Kristy,

    Please don't use "Alheist" and "jerk" in the same sentence. Yes your Prof may be a jerk, but thats not because he's an Atheist. If you assume he's a jerk because he's an Atheist you've openned a whole bag of worms, because that would be stereotyping and pre-judging him. If he's a jerk just say he's a jerk.

    Sarah
  13. by   micro
    micro is just who micro is........and gotta go to sleep early tonight .........because am doing a possible tomorrow double tomorrow////////////////// days for absolute sure//////////


    later, my friends........
    micro

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