Already lost students....

  1. My class officially started this past Moday (August 11). They gave us a 2-3 inch thick packet on the first day. The next day we were told that several people had dropped out.

    That is really sad. Those places could have been given to someone who would have at least tried...

    I think we are going to lose more soon. They have been giving us practice Math tests for the first big test we have on Tuesday. Some of the people in the class keep failing the practice tests (it is nothing hard - just basic math like fractions, decimals, ratios and percentages) I am not worried - I have not missed a practice problem yet.


    Anyone else that has already started lost people yet?

    Second year students - how many did you lose the first year?
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  2. 10 Comments

  3. by   rebel_red
    Haven't lost anyone yet....sigh....I can keep hoping....

    Okay that was really mean, but over 200 people sat for the test for these 28 slots. And about 1/3 of our class really does not study. They are content to pass and I mean barely pass. For those of us busting our butts this is insulting. We have several students, that when a test is scheduled call out for the morning, then show up in the afternoon to give themselves extra study time... I am waiting for our instructors to take some form of action. Are they just giving them enough rope to hang themselves? Clinicals start in 3 weeks. The thought of being on the floor with some of them scares the hell out of me. I could see it if they were working full time, part time, had a crisis, but this is an established pattern. And even then many of us are working full/part time and maintaining not just our grades, but finding ways to internalize and apply what we are learning....Sorry! Thanks for letting me rant.....all over your thread!!!

    Off to study (or maybe just totally offf......lol)
    Tres
  4. by   det01
    Oh that is okay...i was holding back in my message...a good portion of my class does not deserve to be there so I know how you feel. Those spots could have gone to people who would acually read the syllabus and not ask so many silly questions that we do not get out of class untill 30 minutes late (this has shppened every day but one - we were only 20 minutes late that day)

    By silly questions, I mean things that are plain in the syllabus - Test on September 10th on medical terminology - but there will also be some med terms on all the other 4 tests as well. (They even told us which ones!)

    They also could not understand the difference in REQUIRED and RECOMMENDED! Some of them even had trouble adding 1.3 + 2.3!


    Some people may not consider these silly,but me and several of the students around me did.They asked, is the answer wrong if we give it as a fraction? The teacher said yes...the directions plainly say "add the decimals".(why would you want to add the extra steps to make it a fraction anyway?) Then comes word problems...it could say "what percentage..." and they would wonder why the answer was wrong when they left it at a decimal...again the teacher said "it asked for a percentage...that means that you did not finish the problem when you leave it as a decimal." We also had to have a 15 minute discussion about why you do not "round up" in medical math - well beause rounding up gives too much medication - granted not very much - but still some. Even a little too much meds could kill someone - what if it was a morphine drip? Sheesh! Some of these people scare me!

    If these people had even looked at the syllabus or the math help book we recieved a month ago (before class even started!) They should not have the questions they do. Most of the really bad ones are not working/ect from what we can tell. Some of them are straight out of high school and still living with mom and dad!

    Sorry - had to rant...I hope everyone is still with me...

    Anyways to combat the missing class problem my school has implemented a make-up policy. If you miss a test you have to pay $20 to make it up (unless it is a math test - if you miss a math test you get an automatic 0) If you miss a clinical/skills lab you have to pay $10 per hour to make up the time you missed. Late written assignments are a $5 charge. They said this was bease they had a lot of trouble in the past with people not thinking it was not important to show up.


    Sorry about the ranting again...and I realized I may get flamed or something for saying they don't deserve to be there...but I have to sit in class with them. They could also end up in my clinical group..(I pray not) and frankly - they scare me. Would you really want a nurse that will think it is okay to give you 3.7 mg of meds instead of 3.6 b/c his/her calculations gave 3.65 and the doctor only called for 3.6 so she thinks he just forgot to round?
  5. by   VivaLasViejas
    That IS scary........I remember when I was a new nursing student and took a math test, thinking it was no big deal until I got the exam back with a big red circle around my answer to a potassium chloride dosage question and a note from the instructor that said, "Every wrong answer is a med error, and you just killed this patient!!" I've never forgotten that. Nor have I allowed myself to be careless about calculating a drug dose......if I'm the least bit unsure, I'll check it with another nurse, or confirm it with pharmacy. As the saying goes, "When in doubt, check it out"!
  6. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Originally posted by mjlrn97
    That IS scary........I remember when I was a new nursing student and took a math test, thinking it was no big deal until I got the exam back with a big red circle around my answer to a potassium chloride dosage question and a note from the instructor that said, "Every wrong answer is a med error, and you just killed this patient!!" I've never forgotten that. Nor have I allowed myself to be careless about calculating a drug dose......if I'm the least bit unsure, I'll check it with another nurse, or confirm it with pharmacy. As the saying goes, "When in doubt, check it out"!

    That's what my instructor did. And that's the truth anyway, especially when one girl in my class put on her essay answer that it was OK to feed Ensure through a PICC line.


    We lost 5 by the second week, then 3 more as the year went on, and we're an evening class.

    The day class went from 60 to 29. They are trying to offer evening students some day time seats now, but heck after ALL the trouble i went through to get a night shift JOB to accomidate schooltime, not to mention that one of my days i'd work 8 hours, then have another 8 hours of clinical if i went to days, NO THANK YOU
  7. by   essarge
    When our class started nursing (sophomore year) we had 43. Since then, we are now down to 23 (senior year). Some left for personal reasons, some for failure of classes.

    A student has to be REALLY committed to wanting to become a nurse to make it through. It's a rough ride sometimes, but will be worth it in the end!
  8. by   leslieRN2B
    We started last year with 76 and at the end of the first semester we had lost about 19, but made up for it with 16 mobility students and about 3 transfer students from another campus of Bevill. After the spring semester we lost about 5 but gained 2 from the class before us that failed out. We lost 3 that I know of this last semster, but I suspect that that number will be up to about 6 when we go back Wednesday. I am hoping that every one keeps holding on, we are likely to be the biggest graduating class they have ever had. We aren't losing people at the rate that they normally do. When we started, an instructor told me that we would likely graduate with around 45 out of the 76 we started with. The class that graduated last started out with about 70 and graduated 42. I think we will do much better then that.
  9. by   marilynmom
    I am not in nursing school yet but for some reason this doesn't surprise me in the least

    So many people are hearing about the nursing shortage and see all the want ads offering $30 an hour and they think "hey I'll be a nurse". They give no consideration to what the job *really* entails or what it really means to be a nurse, and most people unfortunatly have NO CLUE how hard nursing school really is.

    At least it is weeding out the good from the bad, but like you said they took spots from others who maybe really want to be nurses and now have to wait another semester or year.

    Good luck to all of you starting this semester!

    Marilyn
  10. by   ST_NURSE_MLD
    Hi All,

    I start Level 2 on the 25th. By the end of level 1, we had lost 5 out of 50. 2 just gave up. The others didn't make the grade. I know that 3 of those slots were picked up by prior level 2 students who didn't pass. There were in my summer Micro class. All 5 of the slots could have been picked up by those not passing level 2 not sure yet. I'll find out soon.

    M-
    Last edit by ST_NURSE_MLD on Aug 15, '03
  11. by   tmarie75
    i read an article not too long ago about how schools sometimes admit more nursing students than they actually have room for because they don't expect everyone to make it through. unfortunately, dropouts seem to be expected.
  12. by   janis9799
    This isn't about losing nursing student, but cna students. Last year when I took my cna class we started with 22 and ended up with 17. One person we all suspected she was on drugs. She would ask a question about something that was talked about in depth ten minutes before. The day before she dropped out because she couldn't maintain a required 80 average on the tests, she asked if you put the vaseline on the inside or outside of the probe cover on an ORAL thermometer.:roll LMAO! The class got a bit boring after she left because she was so entertaining.
    Janis

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