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| No. 10 |
Nov 07, 2001, 06:45 PM
unhappy family members
I work at a LTC facillity and we have to deal with family members on a daily basis. I have learned to just calmly tell them that I understand that they are upset but until they calm down and allow me to help them then there is nothing I can do. I also add that when they are calm and would like to discuss the problem like adults that I would be glad to sit down in private and see what solutions we can come up with. I have found this to be the best reply to their ranting and raving because it lets them that I am willing to work with them and at the same time lets them know that I will not put up with their behavior. I have found that after I leave the room it usually only takes a few minutes for them to calm down apologize and be ready to talk. Granted this does not work with every one their is always the ones you can't please no matter what. With them I send them to my administrator and make sure to have perfect documentation of the care the patient recieved that shift That way there are no questions as to weather or not I am doing my job.
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Nov 07, 2001, 07:06 PM
we had the best one tonite...a family member called one of the nurses and said...
you tell me about my husband and if you dont then i am going to CALL THE DOCTOR!!!
lmao
we voted for calling the doctor...lol
ive not had many problems with family members. im very good at calming them down. its kinda like a gift i have. i have had some that just wont listen to anything you have to say and just keep on *****ing...they are the ones with the "us against them" attitude. i just call the nursing supervisor.
she gives them a continental breakfast and a mint on the patients pillow...lol
| | No. 12 |
Dec 31, 2001, 12:32 AM
Families can drive you absolutely insane!! We actually had a family complain about the way their Mother's hair had been done by the CNA. The CNA took the time to set this lady's hair after washing it, and the family had the nerve to complain!! My response to them would have been: "Next time bring in your own hair dresser and PAY for the services." If I have a family that I absolutely cannot calm down, I call the super or the DON. Let them deal with it. I actually had an Amish family call the doctor once and tell him that nurses were taking over the floor!! Cherish the thought!! I had kicked about 30 people out of this guy's room because they were upseting him and one of the sons called the doc!! I had a good time over that one!! If a family member ever assaulted me or threatened me, I would call the cops real quick. We don't have security at our small facility either. I will not tolerate being physically or verbally abused by anyone!!!
| | No. 13 |
Dec 31, 2001, 10:54 AM
Do you have an ocupational health nurse or board? I would talk to them about doing inservices on the issue. Ours did a great lecture and we went through senarios. I always try to be nice at first, saying "I understand this must be very upsetting for you, but I need you to calm down in order for me to help you". If they don't calm after a period of time I leave the room and call security up as a precaution (note that I don't tell them that is what I am doing as one nurse was interecepted on her way out of a room by a violent family member). The family member does one of two things. If they follow me out and continue making a scene I calmly inform them that they will be removed from the hospital if they can't control themselves. If they stay in the room, I go back with security waiting outside the door and try again. If they don't calm down I have them removed. I never at any point yell, scream or do anything that will raise the tension level.
I work L&D and one of the reasons we get a lot of freaks is that our visiting hours are anytime. Having a strict policy about no visitors after say 9PM would be really nice.
| | No. 14 |
Dec 31, 2001, 10:59 AM
Oh Canoehead! I never let anyone block my exit!We were told standing at a 45 degree angle to the door doesn't block them from leaving, but at the same time gives me an escape route if I need it. It works well.
| | No. 15 |
Jan 02, 2002, 08:17 AM
Hi- I was a psych tech while I attended nursing school. I was trained to protect my safety by not letting anyone who could block me between me and a doorway. We are lucky enough in my hospital to have pt relations representatives on call. If families are really wacko, I say as little as I can in neutral unemotional language, so that I run less risk of being misinterpreted. I tell the families I'm going to get someone who can better address their concerns, and I turn it over to patient relations. I probably would ask them to lower their voices so the other patients are not disturbed, but, I personally would probably avoid private conversations out of earshot with anyone this wacko for fear of them twisting my words. I would have no witnesses to support my version of the story. I agree that it could be appropriate for a supervisor or pt relations representative to have a private, unwitnessed conversation, if they are able to continue the conversation as long as it takes for the family to vent, and to reach a successful outcome. I know that as the nurse I would not be able to take enough time away from my other patients to give a family like this even 1/10th of the attention they want. Thus, they will probably remain angry. One more thing I learned in psych: I had a terrific manager who taught me to point out to verbally abusive people that "I am treating you with respect. I expect that/or I would appreciate it if you would treat me the same way".
| | No. 16 |
Jan 02, 2002, 08:25 AM
P.S.-I agree with the guilt theory, but I disagree about the cause. In my experience, it is those who haven't been closely involved in the patient's care who are usually the most aggressive. It's the adult child who wasn't too close with Dad, moved far away, and has flown back in now that he is hospitalized who is questioning every move we make. The most involved family members usually seem less anxious because they have a better idea of what is going on, and , their personal experience has led them to have a better intuitive understanding of the patient's prognosis and of realistic expectations for treatment, even if they have little formal medical knowledge.
| | No. 17 |
Jan 02, 2002, 09:31 AM
Personally the family members that I like are the ones who visit about once a year and then ask What have you done to Mother??? This is usually one of the little old ladies who get progressively thinner and more and more confused. Of course telling the familyu that maybe they should visit more often they could see Mothers decline...but no its always the nurses fault and God forbid Mother recognizes the nurses and not the family member!!! Shame that people don't realize the aging process...also that they feel that they can talk down to nurses and CNA's. I think that if they don't like the care Mother is getting, then please take mother home!!! I do love LTC though..love my old people. | | No. 18 |
Jan 05, 2002, 09:39 PM
look, i know you are upset. id be upset too if my (pt relationship here) was as ill as your (pt relationship here) is.
and i would want the best of care for him/her, just like you, but your shouting isnt going to get him/her care. can we work together to see that your (relationship here) gets that care?
can you tell me EXACTLY what it is you want me to do RIGHT NOW?
if that doesnt work...it usually does...i tell them i am calling the supervisor and they can vent their concerns to her. she is better capable of helping them than i am.
then i leave.
there are ways of letting the families think that your ideas are really theirs. you dont have to psyche them out. they are scared. how often are we faced with the death of a loved one?
how many people really know how to act?
whatever i do tho...i try never to **** them off.
that will only hurt ME in the long run.
and i have to agree with canoehead..if i were afraid of the families id not have the nerve to do this job.
if i am ever unfortunate enough to be hurt by one of them ill probably change my mind about my whole approach.
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