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| No. 20 |
Feb 25, 2001, 07:47 PM
I think the public at large and most of the media are ill-informed about nursing. While most professions have only one entry level, there is justifiable confusion in the public mindset as to “what is a nurse." Nursing has at least three entry levels to practice: licensed practical nurses; and, associate-degree and baccalaureate-prepared registered nurses. Add to this confusion "certified nursing assistants." This is evidenced recently by the hit CBS reality show "Survivor" in which the title "nurse" was used when referring to certified nursing (CNA) Tina Wesson, who is a member of the cast.
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Feb 25, 2001, 09:32 PM
All I can say is we have come a long way since Florence Nightengale. It is sad the public still sees us as her combined with a little bit of Mother Theresa.
I have had mini arguements with people who see me when I am not feeling well and tell me I should see a doctor. I usually am not in best of spirits and snap back at them WHY the doctor probably wont even have time to see me for more than a minute, a nurse like myself will do that assessment and most of the diagnosis along with the testing. I know whats wrong with me and it will resolve with "da da da da da".
Doctors are portrayed as Gods and their nurses are their servants in waiting.
Maybe some nurses that are tired of the profession should go into producing.....hint hint.
Hey dont laugh, if an actor can become president and a studio wrestler become governor, why not a nurse becoming a producer.
| | No. 22 |
Feb 25, 2001, 11:41 PM
I blatently refuse to watch ER.
These "hospital drama" shows are basically about doctors, doctors & more doctors.
Here in Australia, we have a tv show called All Saints (its the name of the hospital, not a reference to nurses!!)It does have doctors in it but seems to focus equally on nurses. I dont usually watch it, only if nothing better is on. Its a bit unreal, I mean the main characters all seem to always be on the same shifts together!! Who do the know in the rosters department !!
We recently had a documentary screened called "Nurses" which focussed on 4 nurses who work at the same hospital but all in different departments. That was real life and very good.
Another show we have is called "RPA" after a hospital in Sydney called the Royal Prince Alfred. Its a real life documentary focussing on following patients through their treatment. It focusses on the doctors 99% of the time. Even having shots of the docs in their starched white coats !! Gotta laugh at that, I dont know any doctor who wears a white coat!!
Anyway, the overall belief of nurses, as portrayed in the media, has all been said before. More TV shows, real and fiction, need to be made portraying nurses in a real way.
BTW, my friends continue to ask me about the "cute doctors" I work with (there arent any) and as Im single, I might end up marrying a doctor!! I tell them to stop watching ER. And most of my boyfriends have been my fellow nurses!! And yes, we need more male nurses!! | | No. 23 |
Feb 27, 2001, 08:16 PM
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Banner headline front page:
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
Sunday, September 10,2000
"Nursing mistakes kill, injure thousands"
Smaller subheading "cost-cutting exaxt toll on patients, hospital staffs"
The article goes on to discuss how hospital shortages and cost cutting have over whelmed nursing staff, resulting in undertrained staff and system errors that lead to care delivery errors...
But the headlines DIDN'T blast out HOSPITAL COST CUTTING KILL INJURE THOUSANDS
| | No. 25 |
Nov 15, 2008, 09:54 PM
Re: Survey: Do you think nurses are portrayed positively in the media?
After Halloween and seeing the variations of nurse costumes available. Not so much..........there is still the need to educate.
| | No. 26 |
Feb 22, 2009, 11:46 AM
Re: Survey: Do you think nurses are portrayed positively in the media? Originally Posted by canoehead The main characters on hospital based TV shows are docs, the main caregivers in the hospital are nurses.
Docs in entertainment programs reprimand nurses, and say they have the power to fire the RN, this is not true.
When a scene calls for emotion, or a sincere conversation the nurses are outside, while the student doc listens carefully and takes action. I have yet to meet a student doc who knew how to listen let alone what to do with the info they had.
Nurses always call on the docs for help, not fellow nurses. Docs always identify the patient's deterioration, not nurses. (Opposite to my experience)
Recently, on ER, a patient arrested in the operating wound as the docs worked feverishly to save his life. Nurses were in the background handing the surgeon his tools, and looking with concerned admiration as he swore at them for not reading his mind. During the arrest the nurses for some reason all disappeared from the room as the heroic doc and his faithful resident ran the code by themselves. The patient died (of course). Pan out to a wide shot of an operating room empty save for these two docs left to suffer the loss of their beloved patient.
I wrote to ER on that one, told them that if they had written nurses into the scene the patient would have lived. No reply.
Nurses are 30 years behind in the media. Why aren't we all protesting? "I wrote to ER on that one, told them that if they had written nurses into the scene the patient would have lived. No reply." Of course you didn't get a response...but you made me smile | | No. 27 |
Mar 10, 2009, 01:43 PM
Re: Survey: Do you think nurses are portrayed positively in the media? Originally Posted by pinkflamingo The best portrayal of nursing (and others perception of nursing) I've experienced is in a Pulitzer Prize winning play entitled 'Wit'. The playwright is Margaret Edson, who once worked as a nursing unit clerk. It is about a woman's experience with terminal breast cancer- reflection's on her life and her entrance into our foriegn, dehumanizing medical world. It very accurately portrays our hospital culture.
The nurse is knowledgeable, caring, informative and a patient advocate. I could go on about the patient, doctor and resident, but this post would become far too long. It is a very funny, sad play and if you ever have the opportunity to see it- Don't Miss It!! You'll love it on many levels.
Comments from others who have seen it are appreciated!
I know this is an old thread, but I have seen Wit and think it is the only thing I have seen where the nurse is even close to being portrayed realistically! Plus, it is a great, great movie.
| | No. 28 |
Mar 10, 2009, 03:48 PM
Re: Survey: Do you think nurses are portrayed positively in the media?
Hello there! I know it's an old thread but I wanted to give some input. I've been writing an evidence based report about vertical violence, specifically physician to nurse abuse. I have to agree with all other posts before: nurses's portrayal is overwhelmingly negative on TV shows- nurses are either invincible (thank you for that, House!), or kind, but dumb or incompetent. Well, I personally can be kind to my patients, but I will give it back to any physician who insults me, or being condescending to me: that you have a couple of years education more than me, doesn't give you the right to consider me dumb.
I'm a MEPN student (master entry in nursing; have another master degree in another field and have being successful in my previous profession) at a highly rated nursing program, and I'll never comprehend that: how come nurses, who are the most numerous group amongst healthcare professionals, can't defend their right to be treated respectfully as a part of an interdependent team? Yes, historically nurses were women and in subservient role, but that was at least half century ago.
If a physician yells at you, or being disrespectful, talk to him/her, state that is not acceptable, write it up, report him if needed. Abusers abuse because they are allowed to do so. Nursing is a profession with amazing, independent, smart, critical thinking nurses. Don't sell yourself cheap! We didn't become nurses because we failed medical school. Neither to be treated as subservient. I have so much respect for nurses after seeing what they do. Stand up for yourself because you deserve to be treated as a professional.
| | No. 29 |
Mar 10, 2009, 04:12 PM
Re: Survey: Do you think nurses are portrayed positively in the media? Originally Posted by lananp Hello there! I know it's an old thread but I wanted to give some input. I've been writing an evidence based report about vertical violence, specifically physician to nurse abuse. I have to agree with all other posts before: nurses's portrayal is overwhelmingly negative on TV shows- nurses are either invincible (thank you for that, House!), or kind, but dumb or incompetent. Well, I personally can be kind to my patients, but I will give it back to any physician who insults me, or being condescending to me: that you have a couple of years education more than me, doesn't give you the right to consider me dumb.
I'm a MEPN student (master entry in nursing; have another master degree in another field and have being successful in my previous profession) at a highly rated nursing program, and I'll never comprehend that: how come nurses, who are the most numerous group amongst healthcare professionals, can't defend their right to be treated respectfully as a part of an interdependent team? Yes, historically nurses were women and in subservient role, but that was at least half century ago.
If a physician yells at you, or being disrespectful, talk to him/her, state that is not acceptable, write it up, report him if needed. Abusers abuse because they are allowed to do so. Nursing is a profession with amazing, independent, smart, critical thinking nurses. Don't sell yourself cheap! We didn't become nurses because we failed medical school. Neither to be treated as subservient. I have so much respect for nurses after seeing what they do. Stand up for yourself because you deserve to be treated as a professional.
I think that, like many difficult problems, there is a matrix of causes and conditions that lead to nurses’ collective lack of self-defense in the hospital hierarchy.
1. Lingering feminine subservience, reinforced by the conservative nature of the demographic
2. “helping” profession, which attracts enablers from dysfunctional families, who tend to reinforce the status-quo “victim” role
3. Tendency for women and other disenfranchised groups to engage in horizontal hostility, which short-circuits attempts at organization.
4. Poor comprehension on part of the public as to what nurses do.
I think one of the important questions to ask is not so much “Why can’t nurses defend their rights”, as it is, “Why won’t nurses defend their rights?”.
Please don’t get me wrong; I am very pro-woman and very, very pro-nurse, but nursing culture is totally whack. You are entirely correct; abusers will abuse until someone stops them, and the someone has to be us.
Please feel free to use any of these ideas. If you want to talk about this further, feel free to write, I am looking for people who want to do some things, or connections to those who already are doing things.
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