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Mar 04, 2009 04:27 PM

Forgetting to chart prn narcotics or other prn meds


How many of you nurses out there have ever:
  • 1. Forgotten to sign off (chart as given in computer charting system) a medication given?
  • 2. Followed another nurse that had forgotten to sign off (chart as given in computer charting system) a medication?
  • 3. Followed a nurse to failed to sign off (chart as given in computer charting system) any medications for that day?
  • 4. Forgotten to sign off (chart as given in computer charting system) a narcotic prn medication?
I have and am wondering if this is as common as I think it is. Would be great if it would automatically record it when pulled from dispenser...any other ideas?


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No. 1
from lpnflorida
Old Mar 05, 2009, 04:39 AM

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I love your idea, if only all the electronics we use would talk to each other so to speak. take a blood sugar automatically have it registered on the patients records. Blood pressure, medications as you have already mentioned. Our charting at this point even with computers is so redundent at times. We chart things two and three times just to make sure it is in the right spot. Why cannot things flow to the correct places within the patients computerized chart.

As to your question have I ever forgotten to chart on the computer that I gave a prn medication, Yes ,quilty.
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No. 2
Old Mar 05, 2009, 04:42 AM

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You would think with all the technology out there something could be done to do these things....maybe an idea to pursue; we would be rich, rich, rich...
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No. 3
from 1scubagirl
Old Mar 07, 2009, 10:09 AM

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My hospital recently switched to a system called PPID(positive patient identification). It's quite simple. Every med is barcoded. You bring a computer to the bedside with your meds, open the pt profile, scan the pt's wrist band(which is also barcoded), scan the med, administer to the pt, and presto you have charted! Each Nurse is tracked with their compliance and unfortunately written up if they don't follow the rules. It has worked out really well preventing med errors. It takes some getting used to, but overall it is a great system. We use the computer for report and can see on our task list that a med isn't charted, so we can call a Nurse on it right there.

I do the narcotic audits on my unit daily, randomly tracking Nurse's and Intensivists to see if they are charting the meds as well as getting witnesses to wastes, etc. I rarely have to write up someone, so my point is the system has improved how we administer and chart meds.
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from GooeyRN
Old Mar 07, 2009, 10:16 AM

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The last place I worked, a little box would pop up when you pulled a prn, asking why you were giving it. So we typed in the reason. But then we STILL had to hand chart the time and WHY we gave it.
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from Virgo_RN
Old Mar 07, 2009, 10:44 AM

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Yes to all four.
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No. 6
Old Mar 07, 2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Virgo_RN View Post
Yes to all four.
Thanks Virgo!
I have to laugh at how few have answered this poll and just shake my head because I don't know why alot of nurses have trouble admitting to be human...so many martyrs and saints out there!
I know it is common because we have so much double charting to do. I have followed nurses that have forgotten to chart off prns and daily meds; our computer charting system even has a way to sign it off "for another nurse" and I have done this for others.
At any rate...Thanks for even answering and for your honesty!
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Old Mar 07, 2009, 12:00 PM

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The double charting gets so redundant....
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No. 8
Old Mar 07, 2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1scubagirl View Post
My hospital recently switched to a system called PPID(positive patient identification). It's quite simple. Every med is barcoded. You bring a computer to the bedside with your meds, open the pt profile, scan the pt's wrist band(which is also barcoded), scan the med, administer to the pt, and presto you have charted! Each Nurse is tracked with their compliance and unfortunately written up if they don't follow the rules. It has worked out really well preventing med errors. It takes some getting used to, but overall it is a great system. We use the computer for report and can see on our task list that a med isn't charted, so we can call a Nurse on it right there.

I do the narcotic audits on my unit daily, randomly tracking Nurse's and Intensivists to see if they are charting the meds as well as getting witnesses to wastes, etc. I rarely have to write up someone, so my point is the system has improved how we administer and chart meds.
That sounds like a great system! Hope all hospitals switch to it!!
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No. 9
from morte
Old Mar 07, 2009, 12:29 PM

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guilty of all 4, the prn narcs less so since i worked with a nurse who nearly got skewered by the DEA.....
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