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| No. 20 |
Oct 20, 2006, 04:59 PM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
I work in a small rural facility and ALL of doctors are professional and friendly. Some of them even bring us our favorite things : chocolate and ink pens!!!!! One of our ED docs brings breakfast for the hospital staff every Saturday morning at 8am when he comes in.
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Oct 21, 2006, 08:07 PM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
For the most part the docs I have worked with have been prosessional and even friendly. At one hospital I worked at a nurse POLITELY asked a MD to please feel free to use the phone at the desk since cell phones weren't permitted on the unit. This creep of a doctor called her a Fu***** B**** and that he will do what he wants. We called security and had him removed from the unit. The next day I had a consult to call to this guy and I was scared to death that I had to call him. No disciplinary action to my knowledge. Another doc while I was in orinetation and we just finished coding a pt, and I just got yelled at by the daughter for not telling them via phone that he was coding, Dr. yelled at me for not knowing why his pt didn't get a tray for breakfast. I told him I would check with pt nurse (My assignment was on other hall). He told my with my attitude I wouldn't last 6 months. Had a doc tell me that I could "Do whatever I wanted with the pt since she was hospice. Don't call me again." Did that mean I could order a MS drip?? (I didn't just the increased frequency on tylenol) Also had doc yelling at me over phone because no one was answering. I had his pt trying to get on the elevator and no one at the desk to clerk at the time. (clerk was on break). I told the doc he had a choice, "Either I let your pt get onto the elevator and wander into the street and get hit by a car or I answer the phone. I chose pt safety. Any questions?" Doc quickly appologized.
At the most recent hospital I worked at, a smaller hospital, the docs were a little more relaxed. Very professional. Only ****** when you did things like d/c home or to LTC with out orders. We had a nurse do that twice to the same doc's pt's. I felt like I worked more as a team with these docs. I did know most of them from the previous hospital I worked at. So for the most part here they were friendly and professional. I really miss some of them.
I know work for the largest hospital in same system as previous hospital and this is a large teaching hospital 900 beds. Docs are deffinately professional and attentive to pt need. I did freak out the intensivest, pt had levo drip d/c'd and I gave BP meds. (BP 125/43) No real documentation for pt to be on levo so my preceptor and I stopped drip. But doc was really nice eventhough I had just scared the crap out of him. BP was actually higher when they were rounding (150/50).
For the most part docs are very professional. There are the ones who can be unprofessional jerks.
| | No. 22 |
Oct 22, 2006, 02:45 AM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
I work at 300 bed hospital in 35 bed ER. I really like all my doc's. Never call them by their first names though. But a lot of the nurses do. Feel like we are a good team with good pt outcomes. 95 percent of the doc's I meet are cool, one is a jerk and the rest are a-okay.
| | No. 23 |
Oct 22, 2006, 03:00 AM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
For the most part people will do whatever you put up with, so be assertive. The simplest thing would be to ask "what?" slowly so they can rethink what they just said, or repeat it back to them, "you said I was a stupid, incompetent, what?"
The next would be to say evenly, "Don't speak to me like that, I don't like it." You can't possibly get in trouble for either of those. Unfortunately some nurses work in an environment where doc is god and they won't get any backup. If they are putting their jobs on the line every time they speak up naturally they will let people get away with more. That kind of hospital will rot your soul after awhile, so think about making a graceful exit if it is getting to you.
Ask during interviews how they handle outbursts from staff. Look for a written policy for medical staff discipline. It's a fair question, and if they say they have it then your NM will have your back, at least in theory.
| | No. 24 |
Jul 07, 2008, 06:33 AM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
Our MD are amazing. Respectful, fun, buy lunches for the staff. I am spoiled.
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Jul 08, 2008, 06:07 PM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
Most doctors I've dealt with are great. But,now that I'm in my 40's and have been doing some form of nursing for over 20 years, if they are rude or mean, I don't put up with it. I don't care who they are. I treat them with respect, they must also treat me with respect, or they hear about it. Doctors are not better than us. Nurses practice nursing, doctors practice medicine. We collaborate. Our bosses are not doctors, but other nurses. I've actually walked away from verbally abusive doctors and once, security was called on a doctor who threw a chart at a unit clerk. We have "hostile work environment" rules at my hospital, so doctors are to act like everyone else and remain professional.
There have been instances of what is called a "code white", when a doctor is going off on a nurse, all the other nurses, if they can, come to that nurse, stand next to him/her, pull out paper and start documenting the doctors behavior. (Saw it happen once, that doctor never did it again....)
| | No. 27 |
Jul 21, 2008, 12:08 PM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
i've worked at a small private hospital and now at a large county hospital...i can honestly say the large county hospital is a better experience because we have first year interns and residents so you are basically training and teaching them..hence no time for the "i'm the MD..you're the dumb nurse attitude"!! it makes it easier for everybody when docs are polite or at least like someone said PROFESSIONAL. considering we spend more time with their patients, you would think they would be cordial and remain professional!! in a perfect world i guess...LOL
| | No. 28 |
Jul 21, 2008, 03:55 PM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
I feel, that as Nursing has evolved and became more skilled and specific in care etc, Doctors have changed in treatment of nursing staff.When i first started in the medical field as an a nurses assistant in 1986, they seemed to be more demeaning,off handish, as if the nurses were there at there beck and call.Although some still act that way now, it is nothing like that now.The Doctors yelling at,being impatient etc still occurs, but i would not tolerate a Doctor treating me that way.I am def assertive and know i am very educated and a very good nurse.Things will never be perfect, but they have improved...(In my opinion ) | | No. 29 |
Jul 31, 2008, 06:12 PM
Re: doctors treatment of nurses??
I have worked in small, medium and large hospitals. I asked one GI doc why they felt the need to be demeaning. He said, we for the most part ,are socially retarded. We are the boys and girls who no one wanted to date in high school, we stayed home and studied. All through our college years we did not interact with others. We studied. We were not the football heroes or prom queens. We rarely attended the football games or dances. He said, we revert back to our inner child. He said he always felt horrible after being mean to a nurse or any other staff.
Being the doctor made him the "superstar". He got lots of attention he did not know how to handle as he was not groomed to be Mr. Personality. Basically they are human too, but, don't happen to have the social graces bestowed upon others who had the opportunity to grow up interacting with others. This of course, is just one MD but, he was brilliant and I think he may be on to something. I don't think they mean it personally. I think they really care about everyone. They are just not good at expressing it. I love and admire them all. This includes the ones who curse and scream at me.
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