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My husband and I have been having this discussion since my DR recently found a nodule on my thyroid. What do you think or what would DR's think of a spouse requesting to be in the operating room... Read More

  1. by   orrnlori
    Quote from weezieRN
    I dont know if i should be on here but dont really care after listening to what you have been saying to my wife ifeel i need to be.I dont know who ccu nrs is but your a sick person my wife is most certainly a rn and in the near future will be working on a masters degree im not asking for anything special i love my wife and believe that if anything is to happen the one person on the face of the earth that should be there is me and i want her with me if i am in the same position. listening to half of you i wouldn't want you taking care of me because there's no caring just another piece of meat on the table. history was full of change and i believe your all afraid of it im sorry im stepping on your toes but in my marriage vows it said to have and to hold until death due us part, not until hospital administration steps in. I know you still dont understand and im not going to waste anymore time trying we love each other thats the bottum line and i wish you would stop bashing her for it. sorry for all the errors i dont wright much. thanks glenn
    You have unknowingly just proved why family members will never be allowed in sensitive areas of the hospital.
  2. by   gypsyatheart
    Lori, you are sooo right! I believe she is a very new, very inexperienced nurse. Weezie and her husband are speaking out of ignorance, as his post demonstrates. Both are being very unreasonable as I see it.
    I do wish her luck however, it is hard to face surgery, especvially when you have a loved one pressuring you to allow something you just can't make happen. Plus, she truly does not understand, clearly, what is at stake here.



    Quote from orrnlori
    You have unknowingly just proved why family members will never be allowed in sensitive areas of the hospital.
  3. by   Town & Country
    This is one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen on this board...






    ....WHY would someone be so terrified of thyroid surgery, and so certain that they were going to face death?


    :uhoh21:
  4. by   TweetiePieRN
    Quote from Shezam!
    This is one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen on this board...

    ....WHY would someone be so terrified of thyroid surgery, and so certain that they were going to face death?


    :uhoh21:
    Bizarre it is!! If you read Weezie's background she graduated from an Associate's degree RN program. I am graduating in May from an Associate's degree program... I feel she makes us fellow ADN grads look bad...We were most definitely taught about infection control, etc, etc.
  5. by   Town & Country
    I'm not saying that a person shouldn't be concerned, even scared, when faced with surgery.
    I would be...
    ...but her fear seems out of proportion.

    Is she afraid she will be sexually abused while under anesthesia? That's the only "logical" thing I can think of that would cause this sort of thing...
  6. by   RNKITTY04
    never mind
    Last edit by RNKITTY04 on Apr 28, '04
  7. by   weezieRN
    Ok i give up, cause i can see that I am not getting anywhere with the posters here and ultimately you don't have any say in anything just your opinions. So to all of you belittlers out there you are exactly the people that shouldn't be taking care of people, you do your job and that is it,which is fine but you don't deal with families or see the end result of your actions. I know you (whomever) will not care about what a patients outcome was post surgery and that is fine, maybe as you guys put I should come to the OR and observe, not that I haven't) but if you can to the regular floor you would see how much or how little family involvement is and what it means to a positive outcome, which is what we all want. Family involvement is encoraged and at times very required. As shazam states about sexual assault that is not likely to happen but I am sure somewhere in hx it probably has and I know what goes on saying about this and that about the person on the table. Some surgeons of cases i have been in on have had no conversations not even whispers just the task at hand. I know how nurses are or can be. Sure i would worry about privacy, but if its a private matter as all hospital visits should be it should be done in private or codes should be used. There are people that hear what is going on with others be it roomate or just passing by the nurses station at times it can't be helped you just hope the person on the other end has good judgement not to repeat what has been said. I recently had outpt testing and they use number to recognize the pt but while in radiology the techs just called out the person's name, what about their privacy? There is room for change in all areas, if people are willing to bend a little. Being a hospital employee dont you think you could get some perks.
  8. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from Shezam!
    [b] This is one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen on this board...

    Actually it is quite representative of day to day nursing in my ICU...where today's families and patients expect they will get their way...at any cost. Anything less is unacceptable. Welcome to 'Reality Hospital".
  9. by   ktwlpn
    weezie-I so hope that you and DHglenn get your wishes and someday die in each others arms...that ain't very likely to occur naturally in real life but you can always have hope.You very respectfully asked for the board's opinion on this matter and then because it was not what you wanted to hear you and DH accuse the board of flaming you and being bad nurses...Any reasonable person can understand the problem with what you propose...As good nurses we KNOW that there is way more going on then what we see here-there are other reasons why you and your DH feel so strongly about your up-coming procedure...You need to talk to your doc about this-hopefully he can assuage some of your fears...
  10. by   MG-NotANurse
    Here is my experience in the OR when my wife had her C-section. It had been a difficult, 36-hour labor, and other methods of inducing labor were not working. The doctor announced that he was proceeding with the section.

    I quietly said that I was not leaving. Based upon the foregoing posts, I was being unreasonable, and I suspect that I was not thinking perfectly clearly. But, at that point, I was not going to leave the room under my own power.

    So they brought me a gown and mask, and the doctor asked me to sit down at her head. I told him that that wasn't necessary (I have witnessed autopsies without incident), but the doctor told me that the last father who was "fine" fainted, hit his head and sued the hospital. So I sat down.

    Soon our son was screaming lustily. He's 7 now. Seeing him before he had started to breathe, and then afterwards, was easily the most amazing experience of my life.
  11. by   frann
    But this is a thyroid nodule. Its going to the lab for testing.
  12. by   camay1221_RN
    I HAVE worked on the floor, for five years! I certainly don't need a new grad of less than a year to tell me what floor nursing is about!!

    You and your DH seem to be the epitomy of what is wrong with today's society. Me, Me, Me!!! Everything is not about YOU!!!

    Okay, now that I have that said, I would recommend you speak to an Infectious Disease MD or RN and have them explain to you why DH shouldn't be in the OR.

    You know, when you first posted, I truly thought you were looking for advice. As this has gone on, I can see that you are only interested in what YOU want, and now you are angry because you didn't get the responses you were looking for.

    How very sad it is that you sit and criticize those of us who gave you advice, you asked for. You don't know any of us, and you certainly are not in any position to tell us what kind of RN's we are. Oh, and by the way, be careful what you ask for, you just never know the day one of us may take care of you!!

    Regardless of the outcome, my prayers are with you!






    Quote from weezieRN
    Ok i give up, cause i can see that I am not getting anywhere with the posters here and ultimately you don't have any say in anything just your opinions. So to all of you belittlers out there you are exactly the people that shouldn't be taking care of people, you do your job and that is it,which is fine but you don't deal with families or see the end result of your actions. I know you (whomever) will not care about what a patients outcome was post surgery and that is fine, maybe as you guys put I should come to the OR and observe, not that I haven't) but if you can to the regular floor you would see how much or how little family involvement is and what it means to a positive outcome, which is what we all want. Family involvement is encoraged and at times very required. As shazam states about sexual assault that is not likely to happen but I am sure somewhere in hx it probably has and I know what goes on saying about this and that about the person on the table. Some surgeons of cases i have been in on have had no conversations not even whispers just the task at hand. I know how nurses are or can be. Sure i would worry about privacy, but if its a private matter as all hospital visits should be it should be done in private or codes should be used. There are people that hear what is going on with others be it roomate or just passing by the nurses station at times it can't be helped you just hope the person on the other end has good judgement not to repeat what has been said. I recently had outpt testing and they use number to recognize the pt but while in radiology the techs just called out the person's name, what about their privacy? There is room for change in all areas, if people are willing to bend a little. Being a hospital employee dont you think you could get some perks.
  13. by   weezieRN
    I didn't mean what was really stated by saying I didn't want you taking care of me or others what i meant was you need to be a little more understanding and flexible to people's wishes, just one wish, not that of many. Yes, i did ask for your advice and i did most certainly get it but I didn't ask for everything else orginally, just asked if it had ever been approached in your facility or seen it? Didn't expect everyone to feel the same as me but didn't really expect so much criticism of myself and as a professional. This goes far beyond the text book stuff, it goes into what nursing should be "CARING" no flaming intended. Did any of you poster ever want to be in with a family or spouse, child just to allay your fears as well as theirs. To me it is not much to ask if the surgeon approves and DH sits there quietly just holding my hand behind the draping. SX wont take long probably under an hour total baring any complications all will probably be well.
    To CCU RN, to correct your statement I am a RN never was a CNA(praise the lord for them) graduated May 2003, yes I am new but I have seen alot in the last year. I do a wonderful job caring for my pts as many as 15 at one time on a med/surg/tele/ortho/peds at a small hospital. I am now doing my dream job OB/GYN

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