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- Jun 17, '12 by Cat_LPNHydrating oneself at the nurse's station? That negatively affects patient care 'how', again?
If these managers have so much time to write up for such menial things, that tells me there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Typical top-heavy nursing unit! No wonder morale is so low.
- Jun 17, '12 by CrufflerJJIt's BS write-ups like this that (as you pointed out) kill morale and prevent any sense of teamwork between staff nurses & leadership. Like you, I had significant (multiple decades of) experience in a prior career before going into nursing. Never did I have any sort of formal discipline brought forth against me. I successfully recruited, trained, and managed employee teams. I hired/fired/developed employees in my group. That being said, it's been my experience (3 whole years!) as a nurse, you are expendable. You are a nobody....a drone...a peon in the overall scheme of things. Get ready to look at the underside of the bus.
I just love the capricious, "out of the blue" write-ups that hit you between the eyes. There's nothing quite so satisfying as busting your rear end to keep your pts alive, their demanding families happy, while helping your coworkers, only to get a nastygram from management for failing to document oral care at 1600 on such & such a date for a ventilator pt. In this case, the nurse learns that pt care does not really matter. All that really matters is "pretty" documentation.
Yes, the random write-ups serve to show you your real place in the scheme of things. Despite all the warm fuzzy propaganda spouted by the higher-ups (and your direct management), about you being a valued member of the team, blahblahblah, you are a number. You are merely a person filling a slot. You are not respected or valued enough to have an open face-to-face conversation regarding the "issue" in question without resorting to BS write-ups that will end up on your record.
Oh, by the way, would you like to volunteer for an (unpaid) community effort sponsored by your employer to "wave the flag" about the glories of your hospital network?
- Jun 17, '12 by canesdukegirlThe thing that struck me in your post was that the manager was actually reviewing video footage. Ummm....seriously, dude? And she walks around with a cup of coffee on a regular basis? Who is writing HER up?
Is she chummy with her own boss?
If she wrote you up for being a minute late because you helped a lost visitor, I would NOT sign that write up. If you already have, write a letter to HR. Include that you hold the "service excellence" standard that the hospital set forth in high regard, and because you practiced excellent service by going out of your way to help a visitor, you were then disciplined for being a minute late. I think HR would have something to say to your manager about that.
It isn't like she's going to be more retaliatory than she already is. Maybe if more nurses on your unit send letters to HR regarding these ridiculous write ups, your NM will take a drink from a cup of shut the (insert expletive here) up.
- Jun 17, '12 by KelRN215Quote from RNSuzq1I'd like others thoughts on being "written-up" at work. Before becoming an RN, I spent 6yrs in the Navy & 10yrs in Business. In all those yrs, not once was I written-up for anything. I've been working on the same floor for quite a few yrs & have never seen anything like the write-ups people get, for the most ridiculous reasons. I only know a few people who rec'd warnings for med-errors or patient care (it's rare). Most of the what you're written up for, are minor clerical errors, things that could & should be handled with a quick discussion with Mgmt, if at all.
These are actual notes: You were observed on the video tape with a drink at the Nurses Station - this is not permitted, please make an appt. to discuss this. (The Mgr. walks around the floor all day guzzling coffee, go figure). You clocked in 1 minute late last week, please see me to be re-educated about the importance of being on time. Really? That was the 1 time I was late in all these yrs & I get drug into the office about it. I was late because a lost old man in the lobby, asked me to show him where the ICU was, so he could see his Wife. They didn't care - I got a write-up, that'll teach me not to be nice again.
We recently had a pt that should have been in the ICU, not on our floor. She needed constant care, left little time for our other patients. I work nights & my co-worker who works days, had this same group of pt's all weekend. It was such a heavy load, she ended up having to stay late each night, to get all her charting done. What does she get for staying late to get it all done? A nasty-gram in her box - See the Mgr. about unapproved overtime. If she hadn't done all her charting, she would have been written up for that - you can't win.
It's just so insulting, to be constantly treated like a bunch of Toddlers who need constant supervision. We're a group of conscientious Professionals, that take patient care seriously. My group on nights, keeps the floor running & handles any problem that comes our way, just fine, without the help of any Manager breathing down our necks - but would they ever say Thanks, you did a great job - NEVER!!! All you hear is negative - you forgot to cross a T or dot an i - from someone who hasn't touched a patient in years, if ever.
Recently had a talk with my Brother, a long-time Trauma Nurse in another State. He said he's never heard of so much ridiculous, nit-picking and there were too many hospitals out there that appreciate and value their Nurses, to keep putting up with this. He works for a Union, so I'm wondering if that's why him & his fellow Nurses are treated decently or is it just my place?
What you describe is precisely the reason I got out of hospital nursing. Every time we had a staff "meeting", it was the staff sitting there listening to management lecture us and/or yell at us. A few months before I left, two of my colleagues left and went to work at the same agency. They told us after the fact that the first time they attended a staff meeting there, they were praised and both sat there bug-eyed thinking, "I can't believe we're not being yelled at." I recently experienced this myself... I had to attend a meeting for my entire agency on Thursday and the COO had nothing negative to say about the staff- she praised us for how hard we work and how we are the reason the agency is successful. I NEVER in 5 years heard anything remotely praise-worthy like that when I worked in the hospital.
As far as write-ups go, my manager in the hospital very clearly targeted certain people. I had a colleague once who was being worked up for a possible cancer diagnosis, discussed this with our manager and was told, "do whatever you need to do." THEN, she was written up for excessive call-outs when she had to miss work for an endless battery of medical tests.
- Jun 17, '12 by pockunitWhenever I hear things like this I suggest that the person quietly start looking for a new job because management is probably starting a paper trail. If you're being written up for things like that, it's because they want to escort you to the door. You probably don't want to be on that floor, anyway, it sounds like.
- Jun 17, '12 by nurse2033This is a sign of poor management. Has there been a change? I was like you, never written up in my adult life, until I took a job where I was written up numerous times for nonsense. I stopped paying any attention to my manager and looked for a new job.
- Jun 17, '12 by imintroubleI guess I should go to work tomorrow and kiss my boss. Maybe not. Might be awkward.
Nothing like what you describe happens where I work. If there is charting that needs completed we get reminders, but I don't consider that a write up. We never get written up for clocking in late..or early for that matter. Somebody might be looking at surveillance video, but if they are, they don't say anything about the food and drink at the nurse's station.
There was a time, when we transitioned to EMR, that there were daily notes in our mail boxes about what we were doing wrong. That was demoralizing. Especially before starting another day with the EMR monster. Those are rare now.
It sounds like somebody's boss has control issues.
- Jun 17, '12 by PrimaFacieQuote from Cat_LPNThe food and drink at the nurses station is an OSHA rule.Hydrating oneself at the nurse's station? That negatively affects patient care 'how', again?
When I went to look it up to cite it for you, I found this funny article by a doctor who was ticked off by it:
Why Is Food and Drink Prohibited At The Nurse's Station And Other Hospital Work Areas?
- Jun 17, '12 by JordanRoseI am so glad I am out of hospital nursing. That was the kind of hostile environment I worked in for 16 years. Then through a chain of events, I found myself out of my job last year. I was able to find a job in a speciality office and I am so much happier. None of the nitpicking, backstabbing, etc that I had experienced in all my years at the hospital. I have to drive a bit for my job, and I am making less money, but it is so worth it not to have the ever present "threat" of being wrote up at the drop of a pin.
- Jun 17, '12 by caliotter3The managers are probably intent on being able to prove that they are doing their jobs, therefore the unnecessary writeups. Managers who are secure in their roles know when to do verbal counseling, when to do writeups, and when to just let something go.