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No. 30
from Gizzey
Old Dec 08, 2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by indigo girl View Post
I have been wondering about these odd outbreaks of pneumonias and such also. In Canada, middle aged and young adults coming down with pneumonias normally seen in the elderly, what's with that?

There are nurses and HCWs on all of the various flu blogs, I have noticed, and, I am wondering if we might put our collective knowledge together and do some planning and sharing of information. As individuals our voices may not be heard, but as a group, we may be able to make a difference towards national and international preparation in nursing care. Let us look at the various problems that we have begun to foresee, and make some contingency plans for our communities. To begin with, we must assume that even if H5N1 does not become pandemic, some other virus will, just because this is the nature of influenza A. We know it is not a matter of if, but rather it is a matter of when. This is the reality, based on our history, and nothing has occurred that will alter this event. The belief or disbelief of anyone who reads this has no bearing on what will happen. We can not wish it away. So, start with the admission that this is a given. Therefore, we absolutely must begin preparations for dealing with mass casualties, and hold our lawmakers to task for closing healthcare facilities during this God given time for preparation. There are so many, many issues that beg to be addressed.
I am all for it..If others are up for it!
I am not around too often but often enough.
I think if we could get nurses from all over the Globe. We need to look at the countries individual pandemic planning and Hospital protocol.
Alot of countries have field hospitals in their planning and strict healthcare planning--We could learn from that.
Other countries or individual hospitals have nothing.
I think it was on Curevents that I was livid at the Gov's paying lipservice to protecting their country against BF..Oh we have Tamiflu and vaccines..They don't have enough, they don't have enough beds or equipment..These sporadic news bulletins re: Tamiflu, Relenza or vaccines are lulling the general populations into a false sense of security.
I know GP's and community nurses here are getting worried because they have been told to get prepared as 1st responders.
I will help anyway I can..
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No. 31
Old Dec 08, 2006, 10:46 AM
Updated Dec 08, 2006 at 10:55 AM by indigo girl

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Originally Posted by Gizzey View Post
I am all for it..If others are up for it!
know GP's and community nurses here are getting worried because they have been told to get prepared as 1st responders.
I will help anyway I can..
This is exactly what I am seeing with some state pandemic flu plans. There is no guidance just this announcement that they will be utilizing community nurses and and long term care facilities to take the patients that hospitals can not. I want to know more about this. I guess that I am saying that maybe nursing needs to be involved in this planning. Hello! Who is making the plans for us? Shouldn't we be involved?
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No. 32
from Gizzey
Old Dec 08, 2006, 10:49 AM

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I don't know if this will help..
http://www.dhsspsni.gov.uk/delilah.pdf

and this
Emergency Planning | Pandemic Flu | DHSSPS(NI)

Revealed: Ireland's plans for coping with bird flu - World - Times Online
This second link is for Southern Ireland but there will be cross-border co-operation and operations.
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No. 33
Old Dec 08, 2006, 11:06 AM

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...869762,00.html

This is an excellent link. Thank you, Gizzie. I would be more hopeful if we were doing the same here in the States. We are going to have to.

It will take me a while to study the other links since I am running out of time.
I worked last nite, and my body wants to sleep! I am going to think about all of this over the weekend and consider a few things.
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No. 34
from Gizzey
Old Dec 08, 2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by indigo girl View Post
This is exactly what I am seeing with some state pandemic flu plans. There is no guidance just this announcement that they will be utilizing community nurses and and long term care facilities to take the patients that hospitals can not. I want to know more about this. I guess that I am saying that maybe nursing needs to be involved in this planning. Hello! Who is making the plans for us? Shouldn't we be involved?
The GPs and community nurses know they are first responders and their role and treatment protocol BUT they are worried about what they are going to face, what is truely expected of them, are they mentally ready to face this level of death and disease ALONE..Inevitably they will be making housecalls alone..It is a scary, scary time..Especially for those in the dark..
Nursing should be involved in the planning, no-one knows how nurses will react or cope with certain situations but nurses. Nurses should have a say in guidelines regarding their own operations.
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No. 35
Old Dec 08, 2006, 11:14 AM

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This was just posted at Flutrackers (thanks, Florida 1, you're the best!), and I think it is germane to the discussion especially as I see that NURSES are involved in this:


Providing Mass Medical Care with Scarce Resources:
A Community Planning Guide


http://www.ahrq.gov/research/mce/mceguide.pdf
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No. 36
Old Dec 08, 2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzey View Post
The GPs and community nurses know they are first responders and their role and treatment protocol BUT they are worried about what they are going to face, what is truely expected of them, are they mentally ready to face this level of death and disease ALONE..Inevitably they will be making housecalls alone..It is a scary, scary time..Especially for those in the dark..
Nursing should be involved in the planning, no-one knows how nurses will react or cope with certain situations but nurses. Nurses should have a say in guidelines regarding their own operations.
I did not know about this. Of course, visiting nurses have always gone into homes alone (I have done this), but we are talking about something quite unusual here. I wonder how anyone doing home health currently would feel about this. This type of nursing really isolates nurses, and couple that with what they will be seeing and experiencing alone... We will all be under enormous stress, and I see a real need for some supportive networks to get us thru this.
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No. 37
Old Dec 08, 2006, 12:44 PM

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Thank you, CRFULLMOON at curevents.com for providing the link to this comprehensive government plan as there is some real detail here:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/69241.pdf
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No. 38
from Gizzey
Old Dec 08, 2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by indigo girl View Post
I worked last nite, and my body wants to sleep! I am going to think about all of this over the weekend and consider a few things.
Just saw this now..Kids were off school today (Holy day) and very demanding to put it politely..I was speed reading and typing..
I hope you got some sleep..I see you posted after this post. Sleep is very important, more important than these forums..Though I know how easy it is to get caught up..
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No. 39
from Gizzey
Old Dec 08, 2006, 04:48 PM

Default Re: Are you prepared for Avian Flu?
Originally Posted by indigo girl View Post
This was just posted at Flutrackers (thanks, Florida 1, you're the best!), and I think it is germane to the discussion especially as I see that NURSES are involved in this:


Providing Mass Medical Care with Scarce Resources:
A Community Planning Guide


http://www.ahrq.gov/research/mce/mceguide.pdf
This is very similar to the reports I linked you too..It is excellant.
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