You Know You're an Old(er) Nurse If . . . - page 20
You know you're an older nurse if: 1. You remember working with nurses who wore caps. :nurse: 2. You remember nurses (and doctors) sitting at the nurses station drinking coffee and smoking... Read More
Dec 23, '06Didn;t think I was this old....mast trousers,hockey helmets for adult siezure patients,pre-op "nipples to knees' shave for everyone,putting out occasional fires from patients on O2 smoking in bed...making sure all the bedpans were off the patients trays before the Father gave morning communion...always having 2 Budweisers in the med room fridge for the pateints with bad DT'S ,worked wonders..caught many a resident getting into the beers and making them go out and buy new ones before narc count....remember throwing the narc keys in the woods(twice)on the way home,too tired to drive back the 26 miles back...flippin ortho patients every 6 hours no matter what...feeding patents their own bile back,would mix it in coca cola....using a magic marker and tape measure to kep trakc of abdominal distention...catscans that last 30 minutes...had more than a few codes in the scanner..the old glass bottle chest tube setups breaking when they got pushed under the bed and the bed got lowered...no air conditioning on the surgical floors,just the ICU's and that was because it kept the equipment cool...ostomy care at 4pm in July was a real treat..foot tents to keep the covers off the toes....I remember how we would 'whisper" and "check out" a patient with tatoos..especially female patients, in my ICU now,I think I'm the only nurse without a tattoo and I'm a guy and a Navy vet...
Dec 23, '06Quote from LEVODEVOCurious, why did you have to feed them the bile back?....remember throwing the narc keys in the woods(twice)on the way home,too tired to drive back the 26 miles back...
..feeding patents their own bile back,would mix it in coca cola....
Did you throw away the keys so you would not get in trouble? Didn't they have to change the locks? Did they have a second set for the shift that was on duty?
... this is a great thread....Last edit by sunnyjohn on Dec 23, '06
Dec 23, '06Quote from LEVODEVOComments, in order:...caught many a resident getting into the beers and making them go out and buy new ones before narc count....remember throwing the narc keys in the woods(twice)on the way home,too tired to drive back the 26 miles back...feeding patents their own bile back,would mix it in coca cola..the old glass bottle chest tube setups breaking when they got pushed under the bed and the bed got lowered......ostomy care at 4pm in July was a real treat..
You mean resident MD's? "to help them sleep"?
Throwing the keys? Nawww... no way!
Feeding patients back bile? Well I do remember aspirating bile from a Salem sump tube, and re-instilling it. Sounds gross-er when you tell it... You don't mean feeding by MOUTH I HOPE!
The glass bottles breaking under the bed when it was lowered? I can see how it could happen - what a mess - and bet that wasn't too great for the patient -
Ostomy care -- At ANY hour is a "real" treat... bwoot...
Dec 23, '06I never quite understood the bile thing...it had just stopped when I got into nursing,I've had older patients tell me about from time to time...ahhhhh..the keys..they always had backups....and as wrong as it was to throw the damn things in the woods..I was younger then and doing back to back 12's with a one hour trip each way...so exhausted at the end of a shift,I just couldn;t go back...I did drive back a few times to deliver the keys...that's when i found out they had "sets' of new ones all set to go...told this by one of the veteran nurses...in honesty(no pun)probably the only dishonest thing I did in nursing,went to an excellant Catholic nursing school, and to this day those Nuns are still sitting on my shoulder...the hospital soon went to a numbered lock system after 2 men in stolen lab coats picked the med room ock in borad daylight and cleaned the whole thing out...
Dec 23, '06the beers....years ago the our med fridge didn;t lock...talking 20 plus years ago..and part of the narc count was the 2 buds...at the time there was far more men in medical school than women,(I think just the opposite today),anyway,the good ole boys were always eyeing those 2 beers...the more they talked of football at their old alma mater,the more we watched them..it was our butt(the nurses,of course)if they were missing...and the few times they were we always caught the culprits...it was then their jog to go out and get them replaced,more than once some guys wife or girlfriend would come walking sheepishly into the ICU and and hand over 2 beers to the charge nurse. the bile thing does sound wicked gross,and yes they drank it,and they were MADE to drink it,something you couldn't get away with now...my A and P is getting away from me more and more as the years go on,but I do remember these patients on Gomco suction,and they were losing tons of bile a day...a problem at the time...today we'd slow down or stop the suction...there may have been an ileus,the need to as little abd distention as possible...now I'd love to know why...I had an uncle that was on IWO JIMA as a Navy corpsman....to keep the numerous wounded from going into shock they would give them cold cofee enemas..called MURHY'S DRIP...I guess it worked really well....he later workded at MASS. GENERAL in Boston,after the war and saw it used there as well,like a lot of trauma medicine a carry over from the war...my first den mother from cub scouts was one of the first to use silvadene for burn patients,she took care of people from the COCONUT GROVE fire in Boston during WWII....My uncle would also talk about how they would try and capture tape worms by making you swallow a string with some "bait" on it..then slowly pull the string out and the worm....
Dec 23, '06Hey adrienurse I too had the same experience. I woke up with a 103 temp, sore throat, HA from hell and yeah that was a long miserable weekend. I had to take the kleenex out of the box and they searched to make sure there were no cheat sheets in the box or on the kleenex, I had a box of Sucrets and 2 Tylenol tablets. No bottled water in 1976 only a water fountain to which I was walked and guarded. Gee's if we wanted to cheat we could never have written enough on or in a box of Kleenex to correctly answer 750 questions that we didn't even know what they would be asking. I also passed. Found out 6 weeks later by mail. I'm glad "those" kind of old days are over.Last edit by DutchgirlRN on Dec 23, '06
Dec 23, '06Quote from krisssyparents were not allowed to stay past dinner, no matter how young the child. my brother was in the hospital in 1960, i was only 5 y/o, we walked in the room in the morning just in time to see the nurse spanking my little brother for spilling his breakfast in bed. my mom was mad but didn't dare say a word to the nurse and if you think that was bad, read this.....!working on peds 4-12 with not one parent around! i don't work peds anymore , but i hear the parents stay 24/7, which i believe is good for the child.
lysol ad from march 1948
in an earlier era, officially, only married people were supposed to practice sex, and thus be concerned with the effects of genital odor, except for menstrual odor, which was everybody's concern. squirting lysol up the vagina made it a bacteria-poor container, all set to let the stronger, surviving organisms multiply and cause problems worse than odor, and eliminating the bacteria which are an inhabitant of the healthy vagina. and, of course, the odor in the first place may have indicated serious problems, problems for the doctor, not lysol.
women also used lysol as a birth-control device, douching with it to kill sperm. andrea tone, in devices & desires (2001, hill & wang), writes of the vaginas that the liquid burned, as does the book facts and frauds in woman's hygiene, from 1936. see another lysol douche liquid ad, from 1928. but see a letter from an 89-year-old canadian woman who started douching with lysol at 17, in the february 2005 mum news.
lysol douche ad
lysol, which today scours toilets and bathroom floors, scoured vaginas (and helped kill sperm) in an earlier era, when, i guess, women were hardier. (andrea tone, in devices & desires [2001, hill & wang], reports on the vaginal scalding lysol caused, and read a 1936 critique of lysol and zonite douching). note the powerful, horrible word "disinfectant." this is a black-and-white ad from mccall's magazine, july 1928, the same month that future life magazine photographer lee miller unwittingly appeared in the first menstrual hygiene ad to feature a real person, a kotex ad. she was just as surprised, and disappointed, as the rest of the country.
read 1930s criticism of zonite and lysol.
visit the odor page.
lysol douche ad, 1948, at the museum of menstruation and women's healthLast edit by DutchgirlRN on Dec 23, '06
Dec 24, '06I use to autoclave glass syringes and needles, as well as other non disposable equipment for a Doc. as an after school job while in high school. He actually carried a doctor bag and made regular house calls after office hours. I started nursing a few years after that. CVP's were measured from a graduated cylinder taped to an IV pole at the bedside. Glass CT bottles and IV bottles were standard equipment. Hand cranks to elevate the head of the bed, unless you were using an old bed, then you propped pt's up using pillows. Trendelenburg was acheived placing bricks under the the bed legs at the foot of the bed. We used an osciliscope for monitoring heart rythms, little round screen with the boxes etched in the glass.Last edit by cowboyRN on Dec 24, '06
Dec 24, '06Last summer I went to this big museum exhibition about the history of nursing. For each decade back to the 1800s (maybe earlier too) they had medical equipment used by nurses during that time, and information about nursing practice, and nursing uniforms during that period. It was pretty interesting overall.
However, what I found most interesting was the group of women behind me all chatting about how they could not believe what they were seeing. The 4 or 5 of them were all nurses, and each of them was commenting on how they not only remembered using some of the equipment shown from MANY MANY decades ago, but they were using this equipment or these techniques until recently! Stuff the museum thought was of "historical value" was still actually pretty recent!
Dec 24, '06Quote from LEVODEVOI always thought the bile thing was about returning what was needed to continue digesting food or give them something to throw up (ha ha ha!) or whatever ...I never quite understood the bile thing...it had just stopped when I got into nursing,I've had older patients tell me about from time to time...ahhhhh..the keys..they always had backups....and as wrong as it was to throw the damn things in the woods..I was younger then and doing back to back 12's with a one hour trip each way...so exhausted at the end of a shift,I just couldn;t go back...I did drive back a few times to deliver the keys...that's when i found out they had "sets' of new ones all set to go...told this by one of the veteran nurses...in honesty(no pun)probably the only dishonest thing I did in nursing,went to an excellant Catholic nursing school, and to this day those Nuns are still sitting on my shoulder...the hospital soon went to a numbered lock system after 2 men in stolen lab coats picked the med room ock in borad daylight and cleaned the whole thing out...
As to the keys, you had a numbered lock system? I don't recall that, I do remember a two lock system - Half the time the nurses would leave the medroom door hanging OPEN never mind unlocked! EEP!
Yes, the nun on my shoulder... (hmm, makes me think of an old song but I can't think what it is ... will let you know if I think of it...)