Wow They Are Really Serious - smokers not hired

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Specializes in Trauma, ER, ICU, CCU, PACU, GI, Cardiology, OR.

admittedly, i'm a non-smoker, however, each day we are bombarded with practices from future employers like the one mentioned previously in this forum, that now they are asking for your facebook information. in addition, there's a law that is been consider in az, that employers won't hire females that use contraceptives. therefore, my question is, are they going to far? 7a140535.gif

momology

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Isn't the premise that they will incur increased heath care costs they same criteria that behooves employers not to hire workers over 40?

rubato, ASN, RN

1,111 Posts

Specializes in Oncology/hematology.

I find this argument interesting. I am an ex smoker who thinks that, due to the fact that it's a legal substance, we need to stop criminalizing it.

However, it's a proven fact that smokers have HUGE health problems, not just with their lungs. It affects so much of their circulatory system. Yes, as a smoker ages, their health will deteriorate. I was shocked the day I read of a study done on smoking marathon runners vs. obese non smokers. Yes, the obese people were healthier.

I don't understand the contraception thing at all. What are they hoping to accomplish? A lot of pregnant nurses going on maternity leave? Or, are the nurses just supposed to stop having sex?

cpl_dvldog

173 Posts

Specializes in ICU.

I think the contraception thing is they knew when they started that Catholic Hospitals don't pay for birth control.

I am a firm believer in the seperation of Church and State. Keep the Church out of the Gov't and keep the Gov't out of the Church.

Besides, what happened to the mantra of telling the gov't to, "Stay out of my bedroom and stay out of my womb?" Are they trying to be selective now?

Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.

So do guys get canned if they use condoms? Or just females that use contraceptives? Seems quite fishy to me....

DemonWings

266 Posts

I used the patch to stop smoking 10 years ago, I wonder if those who are actively trying to quit will not be considered either? Would the patch or gum or whatever people use these days build up enough nicotine to test positive?

I guess anyone could say they are trying to quit though, it would be hard to determine who was actually quitting versus the people who are just fibbing to get the job.

Personally I dont care what people do on their free time, as long as they dont smell like an ash tray at work. I work at a non-smoking facility so Ive never had an issue with people taking multiple breaks to smoke. If taking multiple breaks was the issue, I wouldnt think it was fair, unless they gave me extra breaks to play words with friends or something:)

cpl_dvldog

173 Posts

Specializes in ICU.

Nobody gets "canned" for using contraception. They just don't provide it. On the other hand I have never heard of an ins company paying for condoms either.

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cpl_dvldog

173 Posts

Specializes in ICU.

I cannot find a a single reputable news agency that has covered this. Not even CNN or MSNBC. If it were true they would be all over it. Also addictinginfo.org is such a reputable site they refuse to post who their writers are.

Anyone in the health care industry knows releasing info of this nature at will is a big HIPPA violation. HIPPA is a Federal law, which supercedes any State law.

They sound like a bunch of loones trying to upset people over nothing.

Welcome to freedom and democracy. :rolleyes:

When they make you take the mark of the beast, be sure to tell everyone it's for the public good too.

cpl_dvldog

173 Posts

Specializes in ICU.

From what I read birth control pills are not covered by insurance in AZ. With the proper documentation they will be covered for endometriosis and such only, not for birth control.

Specializes in ICU.

As a nonsmoker married to a smoker and had a father who smoked my whole life.... If I were tested, I'd be fired and I haven't had a cigarette to my mouth but I do inhale or I would die.. :) so now what? It's unfair I have to agree.

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