Would you seriously consider quitting nursing - page 6

if you were treated badly--yelled at, disrespected, verbally abused--by the doctors you work with? How does this treatment affect you? Does it affect patient care?... Read More

  1. by   mrf_bucks
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    I am seriously quitting bedside nursing for many reasons but it boils down to one simple point:

    I can't be the nurse I entered the profession to be.

    Too many many constraints on my time at the bedside due to increasing paperwork (despite computerization of charting and med administration)----and too much verbal and passive-aggressive abuse from some physicians and certain coworkers----well, ya know what, it adds up to quite a bit of frustration and a block to my being the nurse I intended to. I am seriously considering my options nowadays. And very sad about this, as I truly love nursing..................

    the way it should be, anyhow.
    I work in the UK and at the present time I am Manager of a care home. With all the red tape, restrictions and constraints that are levied by CSCI and this government it is becoming increasingly more difficult to actually operate.
    We have CRB and POVA checks that are taking upto 2 - 3 months to come, without which I am unable to employ staff.
    There is a real risk we will have to close due to high levels of agency staff use, upto approximately $US 7 - 10,000 per week.
    I will finish nursing if this home closes as I am sick of the B...S... involved with it now. I became a nurse to help and tend to others not satisfy the whims of CSCI inspectors and social workers who remove residents from the home because they do not want to be disturbed on christmas day if anything should happen. :imbar
  2. by   cannoli
    I think it is more the other staff that suck the life out of one, but those docs don't help.

    I know a nurse whose father is a doctor, and she said she asked him why doctors would yell at the nurses like that when called and he said it was so they wouldn't get called and if something bad happened with a patient it would be the nurses fault for not calling and not the doctors. Interesting.
  3. by   ProfRN4
    Quote from cannoli
    I know a nurse whose father is a doctor, and she said she asked him why doctors would yell at the nurses like that when called and he said it was so they wouldn't get called and if something bad happened with a patient it would be the nurses fault for not calling and not the doctors. Interesting.
    And this was his serious answer That's downright disgusting
  4. by   Malt123
    some times it is too late to quit nursing, if you are going to do it you need to do it before the black balling starts. Even though I wasn't abused by the doctors management covered that well. they did their job so well that they totally ruined me and for what? nothing that would be seen as a good reason to terminate some one. I don't think any one can stop the abuse until we can make managment and doctors responsible and accountable for it. In this state some place was only hiring people that had their lisence here for 2 years. I guess they figure if you can keep it for 2 years here you're ok to hire. sad isn't it. doesn't matter that I had my lisence for 10 years in another state and my LPN lisence for 14 years prior to that.
  5. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from cannoli
    I think it is more the other staff that suck the life out of one, but those docs don't help.

    I know a nurse whose father is a doctor, and she said she asked him why doctors would yell at the nurses like that when called and he said it was so they wouldn't get called and if something bad happened with a patient it would be the nurses fault for not calling and not the doctors. Interesting.
    Exactly right. I love this...finally an honest doctor who admits what is behind a lot of the bad behavior. Some are just bullies and azzholes, others use their intimidation to attempt to pass the blame elsewhere. I've worked with both types, unfortunately it is difficult to prove what is really going on.

    I wrote a letter to this effect once to my manager. She forwarded it to the director of medical staff credentialing. My letter contained an example of how docs' bad behavior on the phone discourages nurses in calling and can end up a disaster for patients (and hospital liability). She was horrified and sent out a letter to the docs. We were proud of her, but she was let go next week.

    Hospitals keep the doctors happy because they bring $$$ into the facility. :stone
  6. by   mercyteapot
    I'd quit my job under the circumstances you describe, but I wouldn't leave nursing. I also have had a wonderful experience in community nursing, as well as staffing a warm line. Better to move on than to let your passion for nursing die at the hands of some jerk.
  7. by   ProfRN4
    Quote from mattsmom81
    We were proud of her, but she was let go next week.
    Now, why does that not surprise me????
  8. by   Tina CTICU RN
    I too am trying to get out of bedside nursing only after 1 1/2 years of doing it. I was a legal assistant in my former profession. Nursing is not all it is cracked up to be! It is very hard to be the nurse you thought you were going to be when you get a lot of frustration out of working with the docs. I also feel the patients and families can be very disrespectful.

    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    I am seriously quitting bedside nursing for many reasons but it boils down to one simple point:

    I can't be the nurse I entered the profession to be.

    Too many many constraints on my time at the bedside due to increasing paperwork (despite computerization of charting and med administration)----and too much verbal and passive-aggressive abuse from some physicians and certain coworkers----well, ya know what, it adds up to quite a bit of frustration and a block to my being the nurse I intended to. I am seriously considering my options nowadays. And very sad about this, as I truly love nursing..................

    the way it should be, anyhow.
  9. by   steve0123
    I've never been yelled at by a Doc before (I don't think they have the guts, what with the 6'4" build ), but I've been thinking a lot lately about getting out of nursing. Its a whole combination of factors. But I think what it all boils down to is that my expectations of nursing, as a profession, were too high.

    Because I always had a great respect for nurses I never took people seriously when they talked about abuse from patients, back breaking work, being a number in the system, having next to zero autonomy (what with "systems" and "procedures" who NEEDS a brain?!) while having maximum accountability and responsibility, a crappy career structure where people are climbing over each other to get out of bedside nursing and into management, grossly inadequate education programs (who gives a damn about the socio-cultural context of nursing when you can't remember the name of that thing that converts that other thing into something that changes blood pressure), horrible shifts that ruin any chance of a normal life, crap pay/respect, and all those other things that we just take for granted.

    OK. Well. I've had my little whinge and gotten it off my chest. Lets hope a potential employer isn't reading this...
  10. by   ProfRN4
    Quote from steve0123
    i've never been yelled at by a doc before (i don't think they have the guts, what with the 6'4" build
    now that you mention it, what's up with that?!??!? i'm assuming you're male (6'4', named steve ). while i'm sure maybe a couple of male nurses have been yelled at, it's usually just a 'hey buddy', with a slap on the back (not even the wrist). if women stand up for themselves, we're either pms-ing, psychotic, or just plain witches!! correct me if i'm wrong guys.
  11. by   UM Review RN
    Yes, I did notice that. Irritating to say the least. :angryfire
  12. by   steve0123
    Quote from bonemarrowrn
    now that you mention it, what's up with that?!??!?font]
    lol! i know. its disgusting isn't it ... but seriously my sisters, don't blame me for being so good looking. blame the spineless jerk with no respect for women/others. anyways, i don't really get along with the docs, i hardly know them from a bar of soap and i certainly wouldn't be invited to the x-mas bbq, i just don't fight with them.
  13. by   BekkaLass
    ...I am definitely considering leaving nursing. I have been a nurse for over 28 years..I quit a job in August because of the office politics ands favoritism and other problems(Too much work, too little respect). I went to another hospital in our area, not alot of difference just fewer patients but with that fewer nurses to do the work so it wasnt that much of a change. Then something happened last week, I was assaulted by a patient. This patient was an "overdose" he had alcohol on board as well but his level was NOT high, plus we were unsure of the "drugs" he took, supposedly Valium(6 pills), however he had been very cooperative throughout the iv, ng charcoal, etc... then his girlfriend came in agitated him(i asked her to leave til he calmed down and told her i would then let her return)..as soon as she left he went beserk..hitting me several times in the head neck and shoulder..as I yelled for help...once the Male tech got there he continued to hit at me but did not offer to hit the tech :angryfire ...ofcourse he then calmed down and we restrained him, then he apologized to me(so he knew what he was doing).I have been spit on, hit,kicked ,scratched, threatened, bit, & cussed out through the years but this was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back ( am not an anxious person, Ive worked the ER over 16 years) and cant sleep since this happened and Ive had anxiety attacks. Unfortunately the "bad" behavior of patients and families have escalated over the years and I am tired of the physical and verbal abuse by patients, families and even doctors. I plan on moving to the UK this year, my husband is scottish and we are returning there, and i may work part time as a nurse but he says I dont have to if i dont want to. I plan on quitting this job in July and i think it is sad that it has come to this, but for my sanity and health i think it is for the best.

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