Would you do anything about it? - page 4

I met someone today at a friend's house who said, "I've gotta get back to work. I work at (name of facility). I'm a nurse." I replied with, "oh, I was told you were a nurse's aide." She said,... Read More

  1. by   Myxel67
    Quote from SCRN1
    Wrong. She stated she was a nurse and when I told her I was told she was a nursing assistant, she said, "no, I am a nurse". This is one of the states that it's illegal in to identify yourself as a nurse. It says so everytime they mail out the form to renew your nursing license in and this is what I found on the internet from the State Board of Nursing in our state...

    SECTION 40-33-30. Licensing requirement; use of title "nurse"; exceptions; establishment of policies to cover special health care needs.

    (A) A person may not practice nursing without an active license issued in accordance with this chapter. A South Carolina license as an advanced practice registered nurse or registered nurse is required for a person located in another state to provide nursing services to a recipient located in this State at the time nursing services are provided. A licensee located in this State who provides nursing services to a recipient located in another state must be properly licensed in this State and comply with any applicable licensing requirements where the recipient of nursing services is located at the time the services are provided.

    (B) It is
    unlawful
    for a person to practice as an advanced practice registered nurse, a registered nurse, or a licensed practical nurse in this State, or to use the abbreviation "APRN", " RN", or "LPN" or any variation or subdesignation of these, or use any title, sign, card, or device to indicate that the person is a nurse, or that the person is practicing as a nurse, within the meaning of this chapter, unless the person is actively licensed under the provisions of this chapter.

    (C)
    A person may not use the word "nurse" as a title, or use an abbreviation to indicate that the person is practicing in this State as a nurse, unless the person is actively licensed as a nurse as provided for in this chapter. If the term "nurse" is part of a longer title, such as "nurse's aide", a person who is entitled to use that title shall use the entire title and may not abbreviate the title to " nurse".
    This does not prohibit the use of the title "nurse" by persons who hold a temporary permit pending licensure by endorsement from another jurisdiction, and it does not prohibit the use of the title "nurse" by persons enrolled in a board-approved refresher course for the purpose of obtaining an active South Carolina license.

    Was she wearing a name tag such as "F. Nightengale, Nurse"? Did she give you a business card with the title "Nurse"? Also, your friend is apparently acquainted with her. Does your friend think she is a nurse? There is a difference between saying you are a nurse to acquaintances, and professing to be a nurse in advertisements, a sign on an office door, or when you charge someone for services. Does she do private duty work and tell people she's an RN or LPN? If she's not doing any of these things, where has she broken the law. She might be delusional or just engaging in wishful thinking.

    Also, if your friend didn't accept the antibiotic, the woman didn't dispense any medication.
    Last edit by Myxel67 on Feb 4, '07
  2. by   Cattitude
    Quote from rnkittykat
    she didn't identify herself as a professional nurse. she didn't claim she is an rn, lpn or lvn. check the definition of the term "nurse". any definition you google will be a broad one. answers.com defines a nurse as "a person who is educated and trained to care for the sick and disabled."
    i guess i wouldn't be so concerned that she casually refers to herself as a nurse on the outside. i would be very concerned if she does it while she's on the clock at work.
    wrong.. google and answers.com do not legally define the term "nurse" for most states. for many states it is a legally protected title and you do not have to say professional in front of it. simply put, you cannot say you are a nurse if you are not, including ma's,cna's,pct's,or any other initial's.
    [color=#483d8b]i'm glad, i know it peeves me to hear anyone say they're a nurse because they have pt. contact. i busted my hump going to school and working ft to get this title. i do tell people that misrepresent themselves the facts.
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  3. by   Myxel67
    Quote from SCRN1
    As I stated above, she works in a mental health facility and the meds were samples left by drug reps. They aren't kept in a pyxis there. I know they are samples because she said so.

    True, MDs do sometimes prescribe antiobiotics for nonbacterial infections, but they are cracking down on that. The ones who do (at least around here) usually only do so because of pressure from the patient, and even then most still do not unless it's bacterial. Any nurse who is giving the Celebrex or other meds as you described is dispensing medication without a proper license to do so. It is illegal any way you want to describe it.
    I think you are going to worry yourself sick & raise your blood sugar over this. For your own wellbeing, you need to relax, take a deep breath, and let it go. I'm sorry you feel so threatened by this woman's actions. If your friend accepted the Z pak knowing the woman's real status, then she should bear some culpability as well under your way of thinking.

    My biggest worry over this post is that you will consider me a totally unreliable person because I don't agree with you in this situation, and that you will disregard advice to find someone to treat your DM more aggressively.
  4. by   wonderbee
    I learned something new. Thanks for pointing out where I am mistaken. Still, I think it's one thing to say you're a nurse in idle conversation and quite another to be practicing nursing without a license. If you think she's actually practicing without a license, and that could include giving patient education and backing it up with the title "nurse", then you should be proactive and do something. But first I'd be real sure of my facts and make sure she's not really a nurse. If she really isn't a nurse, would you feel comfortable just letting her know that you're on to her and she needs to stop?
  5. by   Batman24
    Not a nurse so just curious. If the OP were to call this facility would they even answer her in regards to what this woman's title was?! I would think they would be leery of giving any info like that over the phone if they don't know the person calling.

    It seems perhaps this woman is very insecure in regards to what she truly does for a living. Maybe at work she is known by her title as she should be. Sounds like a whole lot of wishful thinking is going on. Did your friend take the meds?! That would worry me a bit as you are a licensed nurse and if anything were to happen to her I don't know if you would have any legal responsibility given the situation.

    Could your friend discuss your concerns directly with this woman?! Let her know that you were worried about her giving meds and advice that wasn't accurate?! Perhaps that would be a good start.
  6. by   jill48
    Quote from Myxel67
    I don't think I would waste any time on this lady. She'll do herself in eventually. I often remind my daughter that she's not the "policeman of the world," and it's not her responsibility to turn in everyone she sees breaking rules. So what does she do? She gets a job at the airport working for TSA!
    I don't agree with this post. I think you need to whatever you can to stop this woman. If she keeps giving out medical advice and medications, someone is going to get hurt. I would not call her place of work, they may only warn her. I would call your BON and ask them what you should do. Good luck.

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