Would you do anything about it? - page 2

I met someone today at a friend's house who said, "I've gotta get back to work. I work at (name of facility). I'm a nurse." I replied with, "oh, I was told you were a nurse's aide." She said,... Read More

  1. by   Cattitude
    definitely make the call. i know i'm getting annoyed at these types that insist on calling themselves nurses when they are not. the dispensing of meds is just plain wrong. giving abx. for a viral infection is a huge peeve of mine. i hate when people pereptuate this!
  2. by   Myxel67
    Unfortunately, MD's prescribe antibiotics for viral infections all the time.

    Has no one here ever given a friend or coworker a Tylenol, Celebrex, or other med? Nurses seem to be over eager to take names and report whatever behavior they don't agree with. You don't know where she got the azithromax, but assume the worst. If she's an aide, why would she have access to meds? Where I work, all meds, not just narcotics, are locked down tight in a Pyxxis and require password or fingerprint for access.
  3. by   SCRN1
    Quote from Myxel67
    Unfortunately, MD's prescribe antibiotics for viral infections all the time.

    Has no one here ever given a friend or coworker a Tylenol, Celebrex, or other med? Nurses seem to be over eager to take names and report whatever behavior they don't agree with. You don't know where she got the azithromax, but assume the worst. If she's an aide, why would she have access to meds? Where I work, all meds, not just narcotics, are locked down tight in a Pyxxis and require password or fingerprint for access.
    As I stated above, she works in a mental health facility and the meds were samples left by drug reps. They aren't kept in a pyxis there. I know they are samples because she said so.

    True, MDs do sometimes prescribe antiobiotics for nonbacterial infections, but they are cracking down on that. The ones who do (at least around here) usually only do so because of pressure from the patient, and even then most still do not unless it's bacterial. Any nurse who is giving the Celebrex or other meds as you described is dispensing medication without a proper license to do so. It is illegal any way you want to describe it.
  4. by   MedSurgeNewbie
    Hi I'm new here and I didnt want to butt in but I was thinking,if you dont report can it get you into an issue? Im a new grad so I am not totally up on all the fine points of the law. Its really not fair to you that someone is your friend put you in this position.. thanks for letting me lurk here I have really learned a lot on theese boards
  5. by   lovemyjob
    Quote from Myxel67
    Unfortunately, MD's prescribe antibiotics for viral infections all the time.

    Has no one here ever given a friend or coworker a Tylenol, Celebrex, or other med? Nurses seem to be over eager to take names and report whatever behavior they don't agree with. You don't know where she got the azithromax, but assume the worst. If she's an aide, why would she have access to meds? Where I work, all meds, not just narcotics, are locked down tight in a Pyxxis and require password or fingerprint for access.
    This is a completely different situation. Someone is misrepresenting themselves AND dispensing stolen meds, I wouldnt consider that something minor. The OP has a valid concern.

    I have to agree with most other posters. This person is dispensing meds as well as medical advice. She can be very very dangerous.

    I would love to know what her employer thinks of this.
  6. by   charebec65
    Report! Report! Report! This woman is dangerous!
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  8. by   seva
    I understand you're on the fence about this. No one wants to be a meanie.

    Ask yourself this: If this situation were to come to light, including the fact that you knew about it, what would be YOUR legal liability?

    seva
  9. by   canoehead
    Write a letter to the BON putting in just what you have observed her do, and what she has said to you. Say that you are concerned, but unsure if the person has actually done anything wrong. Then leave it in their hands. If it is serious they will investigate, if not, they can ignore it. And no matter what happens then it is not your fault!
  10. by   Soup Turtle
    I'm thinking you won't be getting many invites around town if you start looking for ways to get your friends or their friends in trouble. If this wasn't such a social, personal setting, it might be different.

    Why was this woman at your friend's house to start out with? She may be delusional, but it seems like she was trying to help out. You indicate your friend understands the other woman is not a nurse and is correctly following her doctor's advice, so...

    I'm just really confused about who this woman is and what her relationship to your friend is. If she's such a liar and so clueless, why not just cut her loose?
  11. by   Schatzi RN CEN
    Report her. This time it's Z-max, (bad enough), it may be something more dangerous next time.
    The other thing- I have worked pretty darned hard to be able to call myself nurse, no one should just be able to call herself a nurse without going through the same hell I did
  12. by   Grammie1
    I think you need to check with the facility she works for, giving her the benefit of doubt. If indeed she is what you suspect I would confront her. If that doesn't work then reporting is the only ethical thing to do. You are not the one doing wrong. On the other hand having a genuine nonjudgemental talk to explain why you are concerned for her future is appropriate and compassionate. If she continues she will get into trouble sooner or later and then will never, ever become a nurse. Nor will she be allowed to work in health care. A heart to heart with out threats is a good first step. Good luck, glad I'm not in your position.
  13. by   PralineLPN
    Report it. The anti-biotic issue alone needs to be taken care of. This is why we have lovely strains of MRSA, VRE and who knows what else brewing. As I'm sure you all know.

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