working on Christmas? - page 9

I've been a nurse for almost 8 years. I have always volunteered to work EVERY holiday (newyears, 4th of July, Thanksgiving etc...) just to have Christmas off to be with my family. I am 6 months... Read More

  1. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from dorimar
    now i have children and all i ask is to be there when they wake up in the morning on christmas day( i work nights). for those of you that think it's not your problem .... shame on you.
    the more i think about this statement, the angrier it makes me. shame on you, dorimar! and shame on all of the other parents who believe that having children makes them somehow more entitled than the rest of us! you were lucky enough to be able to have children when you wanted to have them -- something that i was never fortunate enough to achieve. and now you think that because you were so lucky as to have children, the rest of us somehow owe you more perqs?! shame on you!

    we're all hired for the same job, the same hours and the same pay -- how dare you tell anyone that you are more entitled to any of the perqs of the job than the rest of us! whether or not i chose to (or was able to) reproduce, i am just as deserving of having the holiday off as anyone else on the schedule. and perhaps, since i celebrate christmas as a religious holiday, more entitled than someone who celebrates it merely as a tradition. but i'm not going there.

    no one but you and your partner was involved in your decision to reproduce -- so no one owes you anything because you have done so. i don't owe you christmas or mother's day off . . . . i have a mother, after all. she's equally deserving of spending mother's day with her child as you are of spending it with yours. perhaps more so, as she doesn't have the same sense of entitlement that you seem to have.

    ruby (rant off now)
  2. by   nurse_clown
    Quote from ruby vee
    the more i think about this statement, the angrier it makes me. shame on you, dorimar! and shame on all of the other parents who believe that having children makes them somehow more entitled than the rest of us! you were lucky enough to be able to have children when you wanted to have them -- something that i was never fortunate enough to achieve. and now you think that because you were so lucky as to have children, the rest of us somehow owe you more perqs?! shame on you!

    we're all hired for the same job, the same hours and the same pay -- how dare you tell anyone that you are more entitled to any of the perqs of the job than the rest of us! whether or not i chose to (or was able to) reproduce, i am just as deserving of having the holiday off as anyone else on the schedule. and perhaps, since i celebrate christmas as a religious holiday, more entitled than someone who celebrates it merely as a tradition. but i'm not going there.

    no one but you and your partner was involved in your decision to reproduce -- so no one owes you anything because you have done so. i don't owe you christmas or mother's day off . . . . i have a mother, after all. she's equally deserving of spending mother's day with her child as you are of spending it with yours. perhaps more so, as she doesn't have the same sense of entitlement that you seem to have.

    ruby (rant off now)
    [font="verdana"]i find that a lot of the "childless" rn's are half expected to cover for holidays for the more senior nurses who have kids. i know i'm working on christmas eve, christmas night and new years eve. i work nights too. my son is two and my daughter is eight. i don't expect others to take my shifts because i have kids. i too want to see my kids christmas morning. i worked last year. christmas eve, christmas night and new years. but i also stayed up christmas morning. i was very tired during the holidays but it was worth it!!! i got in two family christmas parties and two turkey dinners!!! i recovered in january.
  3. by   Bipley
    Quote from dorimar
    Well then, Bipley, good for you. However, the underlying theme of this thread seems to be "your problems are none of my concern". That is what my "shame on you " was aimed at.
    Okay, so your "problem" here is that you have to work Christmas morning and you won't be there when your kids wake up. Your kids might have to wait a couple of hours to open their gifts.

    I'm not seeing the "problem" yet. Seems to me every other Christian has similar problems on that day. And even those who merely celebrate the holiday even if they are not Christian.

    Please clarify your problem, I'm slow and I'm not getting it.
  4. by   nurse_clown
    [font="comic sans ms"]i must be slow too. i have kids but i've never had a problem over christmas and new years. ideally, we all want to be with the family, but sometimes "duty calls". :hatparty:
  5. by   lee1
    Quote from scrmblr
    I've been a nurse for almost 8 years. I have always volunteered to work EVERY holiday (newyears, 4th of July, Thanksgiving etc...) just to have Christmas off to be with my family. I am 6 months into a new ER job and they have scheduled me for Christmas Eve AND Christmas day My poor kid's are really upset. My husband is also a nurse and is scheduled to work Christmas day this year too.

    I had to tell my parent's that we were both working and ask if they would take the kids. My mom was pretty nasty and less then understanding. She said she didn't think it was "fair" to ask that I work Christmas when I have kids. I told her that people still get sick on Christmas and I wasn't the only employee with children.

    Here is what I need from you all... Please help me explain to my (never had a job outside of the home) mother why I have to work Christmas. and second...Help me understand why I have to work Christmas
    I take it you are not unionized hosptial where seniority has some perks. I am not talking about just a particular unit but for the whole hospital. This is one of the perks that would be available even though you had transferred to a new unit.
  6. by   lee1
    Some units where I work-----the nurses only work a 4 hour shift to make it fair for everyone on Christmas--------
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from lee1
    Some units where I work-----the nurses only work a 4 hour shift to make it fair for everyone on Christmas--------
    The floor i used to work on offered this option.

    I think our maternity floor does the same.
  8. by   RN4NICU
    Quote from lee1
    Some units where I work-----the nurses only work a 4 hour shift to make it fair for everyone on Christmas--------
    How does that make it fair for everyone? It totally ruins the holiday for people that have to go out of town to visit with their families!! That is just as bad as the units that require that everyone works part of every holiday (either the eve or the day) claiming that it makes it "fair". It doesn't. It totally screws over the people whose families live at a distance.
  9. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from lee1
    I take it you are not unionized hosptial where seniority has some perks. I am not talking about just a particular unit but for the whole hospital. This is one of the perks that would be available even though you had transferred to a new unit.
    I work in a unionized hospital but thank goodness, seniority does NOT make it such that the new nurses get screwed over year after year. We simply do not do that to them----or no one would stay. In the unit where I work, even though I have been there 6 years (yep SIX) I would still be one of the last ones to get the day off I wanted if this happened. (a bunch have been there 15-20 years). I would not hang around for that. We all take our turns, those who worked Christmas one year, get the next one off. And we do 6 hour shifts, so no one need lose her ENTIRE holiday. I think that is much more fair than the ole seniority get the first pick routine at holiday time.
  10. by   rn in 3 years
    Quote from Bipley
    Okay, so your "problem" here is that you have to work Christmas morning and you won't be there when your kids wake up. Your kids might have to wait a couple of hours to open their gifts.

    I'm not seeing the "problem" yet. Seems to me every other Christian has similar problems on that day. And even those who merely celebrate the holiday even if they are not Christian.

    Please clarify your problem, I'm slow and I'm not getting it.
    Actually, I think those that work night and have to work the holiday have it better than than ones that work days. You can go home and spend a few hours with the family opening presents and then go to bed. Those that work days will be at work during that time.
  11. by   fergus51
    Quote from RN4NICU
    How does that make it fair for everyone? It totally ruins the holiday for people that have to go out of town to visit with their families!! That is just as bad as the units that require that everyone works part of every holiday (either the eve or the day) claiming that it makes it "fair". It doesn't. It totally screws over the people whose families live at a distance.
    That's why I have gotten some attitude from some of the nurses I work with. My whole family lives out of town, so to see them this year I needed both Xmas and Xmas eve off. A few people have said that isn't fair because we should all have to work part of the holiday. For me, it is preferable to work ALL of the holiday one year in exchange for having it ALL off the next. Fortunately I work in a place that realized there is nothing wrong with that.
  12. by   fergus51
    Quote from rn in 3 years
    Actually, I think those that work night and have to work the holiday have it better than than ones that work days. You can go home and spend a few hours with the family opening presents and then go to bed. Those that work days will be at work during that time.
    I know several day shifters whose kids open their presents either Xmas eve or early Xmas morning before they go to work. It isn't perfect, but it works for some people.
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I am sorry, but nights does not have it "better" than days; sleeping all day (or trying to be awake, fighting sleep) on a holiday is NOT having a holiday at all. Feeling like you were beat with a ball bat after a long night is not fun. Nightshift does stink in that respect.

    Each shift has its ups and downs. I am working a 1p-1a to avoid that---and get what I want. I will be home about 2a on Christmas Day, plenty of time to get a little shuteye and get up w/the kids and open presents and have a nice day. I am so happy my work is so flexible like that. And that seniority does not rule who gets a day off.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Nov 22, '05

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