woman dies in ER waiting room (article) - page 11

the first few paragraphs, click link for rest of story (too long to cut/paste) interesting. says she was in for abd pain 3x in 3 days,but never what they did for her test wise, or what they... Read More

  1. by   chuck1234
    Quote from TazziRN
    Your first statement about Native Americans being the only legal ones didn't belong here. You're the one who got this going in another direction, don't blame Flyer.
    The main point is who is legal and who is illegal...
    The native Indian did not invite anyone to come here!!!
    From their point of view, whoever that is not Native Indian is illegal.
  2. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from chuck1234
    And I have no intention right here to mention how the Native Indian lost this land...that is another hit argument and it does not belong here...

    Then why did you bring it up?


    And when we speak of illegal, I'm speaking of TODAY, in this country, based on our laws.
    So yes, if you illegally enter this country, then you are illegal. Period, end of story.
  3. by   chuck1234
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Then why did you bring it up?


    And when we speak of illegal, I'm speaking of TODAY, in this country, based on our laws.
    So yes, if you illegally enter this country, then you are illegal. Period, end of story.
    I am speaking of who is legal and who is illegal whether is today or a few hundred years ago.
    European, Asian, Mexican, African or ET...they all are illegal based on what the Native Indian see it. Period.
  4. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from chuck1234
    I am speaking of who is legal and who is illegal whether is today or a few hundred years ago.
    European, Asian, Mexican, African or ET...they all are illegal based on what the Native Indian see it. Period.



    Well, the OP wasn't speaking via the Native Americans.

    But I guess maybe the church of the Flying spaghetti monster may see you as illegal...who knows, and who cares...

    What matters now, is what our American Government determines as illegal. And that's anybody crossing our borders without permission.

    Kinda basic, dontcha think?
    Last edit by cardiacRN2006 on May 24, '07
  5. by   chuck1234
    Oh, they are combining two threads together.
  6. by   TazziRN
    Quote from chuck1234
    I am speaking of who is legal and who is illegal whether is today or a few hundred years ago.
    European, Asian, Mexican, African or ET...they all are illegal based on what the Native Indian see it. Period.
    Then the Native Americans aren't legal either, because the first Indians came here via what is now Alaska and Russia.
  7. by   CuriousMe
    Quote from chuck1234
    i am speaking of who is legal and who is illegal whether is today or a few hundred years ago.
    european, asian, mexican, african or et...they all are illegal based on what the native indian see it. period.
    i guess the problem is that we are not speaking about who was illegal a few hundred years ago.

    the problem is complicated enough to address in a modern context. if we confound the issue with prior countries (with radically different legal systems) there's no way to even start to address the issues of immigration today.

    peace,
    cathie
  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from swatch007
    long after i die, immigration problems will still be part of our society. i better leave the debate to the politicians who use these issues as their tool for election speeches.
    Quote from curiousme
    i guess the problem is that we are not speaking about who was illegal a few hundred years ago.

    the problem is complicated enough to address in a modern context. if we confound the issue with prior countries (with radically different legal systems) there's no way to even start to address the issues of immigration today.

    peace,
    cathie
    agree with both of the above.

    anyway, we're supposed to be talking nursing issues here.
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Talk about a rabbit trail . . .. .:uhoh21: (another thread).

    steph
  10. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from Tweety
    Agree with both of the above.

    Anyway, we're supposed to be talking nursing issues here.

    You don't think that illegal immigration is a nursing issue?


    Come visit my ER....
  11. by   chuck1234
    Quote from TazziRN
    Then the Native Americans aren't legal either, because the first Indians came here via what is now Alaska and Russia.
    Nobody is legal then...
    Can we go back to the table and discuss how Ms. Rodriquez died...
  12. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from chuck1234
    Nobody is legal then...
    Can we go back to the table and discuss how Ms. Rodriquez died...

    She died from poor medical management from the Doctor who had just seen her 3 hours prior.
    She was only out in the waiting room for 45 minutes. In my ER (which again, is overrun by illegals), 45 minutes would be a dream. Try more like 6-8 hours...
  13. by   CuriousMe
    Quote from chuck1234
    Nobody is legal then...
    Can we go back to the table and discuss how Ms. Rodriquez died...
    Well, I'm legal.....but sure, you were the one to go diving back in history to begin with.
    Last edit by CuriousMe on May 24, '07

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