why is a person so evil?..... venting here - page 2

Another night at work I had a patient. And the patient was feeling ill.... so I called the MD, got orders, and the patient was still not feeling well. so at 7am I called the MD, and he did not call... Read More

  1. by   LouisVRN
    Quote from BumblebeeRN
    This came from the charge nurse who is not my friend, so I know it is a reputable source. And based on this nurses personality (the evil one), I defintely beleive them.
    We have a med error comitte that looks at anything with medications, and when a med is missed, this nurse goes and tells the manager..... and she shouldn't because we have a med error comittee that handles these things....
    I don't believe you should fault her for this, in every place I know of you are OBLIGATED to report a med error if you catch it, regardless of whether or not there is a committee looking for them as well.
  2. by   chenoaspirit
    This needs to be addressed, not ignored. Yes, you can avoid this person, but obviously her bad behavior will continue. She needs to be called on it and the sooner the better. Your nurse manager also needs to take her aside and explain her nursing etiquite. If this continues, the patients will be uncomfortable and fearful, while the staff continue to be her target. Shame on her!
  3. by   kookabura777
    'Looks like this person has deep personal insecurities. She seems to get happiness and satisfaction whenever someone gets downgraded. She has to bring down somebody to make herself look good or to make herself stand out as the best from the rest, feeling very important. I frequently see this type; they range from dangerous to sick. Per my experience, be careful and watch your back. Once you become her target and she gets away unscathed on a daily basis, she will be doing it over and over again. It will be good to nip it in the bud. Nursing is a continuous learning process and we are all in different stages of learning. I seek support from my fellow nurses especially those who are more experienced. I can't know everything that's for sure.
  4. by   nursel56
    I agree with what kookabura said- the nurses I've known that are like this are extremely insecure and attempt to deal with it by attracting what they perceive as favorable attention from managers, co-workers, patients and family members to fill the nagging emptiness they feel.

    Since it can't be filled that way, they are sort of like addicts who constantly need an attention fix. Many times an inexperienced manager doesn't see the brown-nosing BS for what it is, and a good nurse who just wants to do a good job and go home without making waves becomes a target.

    The only really effective thing I've found to do is to confront them with it You don't have to be mean, just use plain, unvarnished words and a firm tone of voice. ie look her in the eye, calmly state the behavior you've observed, and that it needs to stop. People like this have radar for the pushovers, and nothing you do can ever be "enough" to get them to back off. Best wishes to you.
  5. by   labrador4122
    Quote from LouisVRN
    I don't believe you should fault her for this, in every place I know of you are OBLIGATED to report a med error if you catch it, regardless of whether or not there is a committee looking for them as well.
    Med errors are looked at on a daily basis- and it is reported to risk management by the medication error comitte person. At times the nurse manager cannot be there for meetings or even vacation. So a list is made of how many med errors or near misses are made in a 24hr period, and once a week those reports go to risk management.
    my point is, that there are steps involved regarding this. This nurse did not need to go to nurse manager about it.
  6. by   KarmaComesAround
    I agree with what others are saying. This is unprofessional, and it should not be tolerated for another nurse to bad-mouth another co-worker in front of the patient. She needs to be called out on it. I would address her in a professional, assertive manner (it does not need to be aggressive, rude, or threatening to her). Handle yourself professionally. You do not want her coming back at you or your bosses saying you did this, and you were mean to her, etc... I just would not trust a person like this and how she would go behind your back. Maybe, even make yourself a personal note to keep fresh in your memory of how you handled it, what was said, etc... Let her know this will not be tolerated. If that does not resolve the issue, go up the hierarchy. She needs to be dealt with. Good Luck!
    Last edit by KarmaComesAround on May 27, '10 : Reason: ?
  7. by   roser13
    I'm spitting in the wind here, but I'll try one more time. Unless you can document what happened, how will you deal with this as others are advising you to do?

    "Susan told me that Jane told her that Sally said mean things about me to my patients."

    ??

    I would never consider reporting something to my manager that I did not personally witness. If the charge nurse who supposedly heard all this felt that the nurse was acting inappropriately, why on earth didn't she deal with the issue at the time? Telling you what she supposedly observed was inappropriate, in my opinion... she was just stirring the pot.
  8. by   morte
    Quote from roser13
    I'm spitting in the wind here, but I'll try one more time. Unless you can document what happened, how will you deal with this as others are advising you to do?

    "Susan told me that Jane told her that Sally said mean things about me to my patients."

    ??

    I would never consider reporting something to my manager that I did not personally witness. If the charge nurse who supposedly heard all this felt that the nurse was acting inappropriately, why on earth didn't she deal with the issue at the time? Telling you what she supposedly observed was inappropriate, in my opinion... she was just stirring the pot.
    the "in between person" IS THE MANAGER!
  9. by   roser13
    "in between person" IS THE MANAGER!"

    Wrong. Read OP's post again. It is the charge nurse....a far cry from Manager in any facility in which I've worked. However, even if it were the Manager..why would a manager or a charge nurse relate one nurse's indiscretion to another? Is that an appropriate management action?

    I believe there's more to this story than just one evil nurse that everyone is so quick to crucify.
  10. by   labrador4122
    Quote from roser13
    "in between person" IS THE MANAGER!"

    Wrong. Read OP's post again. It is the charge nurse....a far cry from Manager in any facility in which I've worked. However, even if it were the Manager..why would a manager or a charge nurse relate one nurse's indiscretion to another? Is that an appropriate management action?

    I believe there's more to this story than just one evil nurse that everyone is so quick to crucify.


    I am by no far mean trying to crucify the evil nurse. I was just venting on how inappropriate their behavior was. I dont understand why this evil nurse said that I "was sleeping, and did not do anything for the patient" and on top of that told the parents "oh the night nurse could of done something more for you, she could of done this and that".... in turn made the patient and the family angry, and in turn the nurse manager had to go in the room to talk to them.

    I gave this evil nurse report infront of the patient. And infront of the patient I told the evil nurse everything I did.... and the patient and the family agreed with everything I said. I said in report, I called the MD, I did this and that. The patient's mother never seemed upset with my care or anything of the sort infront of me. And as a matter of fact, I had the charge nurse go in and asses the patients concerns while I was on my break and the charge nurse said the patient was fine.

    That is the 100% of the story.

    usually when their is a seriousness to an event the nurse manager takes the time to call the nurse in question. So far I have not had a call from manager.
    When I go to work, I give 100% to all my patients I treat them all with the same care and respect. I've been a patient and I have had my precious baby as a patient..... I can't imagine not giving the proper care when that is what I am getting paid to do.
  11. by   labrador4122
    so funny this evil nurse acts so normal around me.

    there are a few people's personalities that I don't get along with at work, but there have been times when I have made a mistake, and they have told me about it. And for that, I trully thank them--- even if we are not friends, or chat when we give report to eachother, I respect them and thank them for pointing out a mistake or pointing out a thing that I should of done for my patient.

    This evil nurse has not said a word to me since that incident, and when I am already working and doing what I have to do.... she acts like "oh name are you ok?. are u sure?" / people like this really make me hate nursing!!

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