where are the nursing shortages? - page 20

I am hearing that there are shortages in some areas while some are cutting back jobs. Can anyone tell me for sure where thet know there are nursing shortages in the U.S or Canada. Thanks... Read More

  1. by   curiousjoe
    I was just wondering how much profits do hospitals make? is it really that much? and could the hardships low pay and over working of nurses have anything to do with the fact that it is mostly woman that are attracted to nursing? I know there are some men nurses but my experiences shows it is woman dominated.

    I mean it used to be a honorable thing to be a secretary back in the hey day before woman started to take over that area when they started to work outside the homes and thus the prestige fell and so did the pay.

    if men dominated the nursing field do you think that pay would be better, less overworking and less blame on the men nurses for problems even tho the administrators are actaully at fault for overworking nurses and the long working hours and poor support for them?

    I was thinking considering that adminstrator postions, in hospitals, in politics and in corporate america men dominate, could this have something to do with it since men generally have more in common with men then woman and will favor mere images of themselves then woman even tho a woman gave birth to them and raised them?

    and do the men nurses tend to make more money that you know of for performing that exact same work as some of the woman nurses?

    just curious.

    RR
  2. by   SuesquatchRN
    Right across your border, in upstate NY.
  3. by   piper_for_hire
    I don't know if men entering the field will in itself increase the pay. Here are some disturbing things I have observed in my short time in nursing:

    1. Some nurses actually say that you should get out of nursing if you want to be paid well.
    2. Some nurses seem to think that hospital profits or how the hospital is "doing" is somehow tied to salary.
    3. Some nurses have think that unions are evil.
    4. Some nurses feel that they are well compensated.

    You get the idea. My feeling is that nursing is obviously essential and that nurses underpaid. These ideas I outlined didn't exist in my experience the business world. Let the CEOs and the sales people worry about profits and all that. I wasn't hired to run the business. I was hired because I'm necessary to the business. Can't run a hospital without nurses.

    Pay me $500 an hour and I will still say I'm underpaid. Why? Because if I don't then there is no negotiation and eventually I will be underpaid as inflation catches up to me and cost of living increases. It's business. My business is nursing. Let's not confuse the reasons we work in health care with the business world. Let's save our compassion for our patients, not our board of directors. To them, it's all business. We should treat them as equals and do the same.

    I hope that made sense, I worked a 12 last night and it's 10pm. I need to go to bed!

    -S

    Quote from curiousjoe
    I was just wondering how much profits do hospitals make? is it really that much? and could the hardships low pay and over working of nurses have anything to do with the fact that it is mostly woman that are attracted to nursing? I know there are some men nurses but my experiences shows it is woman dominated.

    I mean it used to be a honorable thing to be a secretary back in the hey day before woman started to take over that area when they started to work outside the homes and thus the prestige fell and so did the pay.

    if men dominated the nursing field do you think that pay would be better, less overworking and less blame on the men nurses for problems even tho the administrators are actaully at fault for overworking nurses and the long working hours and poor support for them?

    I was thinking considering that adminstrator postions, in hospitals, in politics and in corporate america men dominate, could this have something to do with it since men generally have more in common with men then woman and will favor mere images of themselves then woman even tho a woman gave birth to them and raised them?

    and do the men nurses tend to make more money that you know of for performing that exact same work as some of the woman nurses?

    just curious.

    RR
  4. by   ngee_nars
    any country u go
  5. by   Elizabeth19
    In the hospital in san diego where I work in, there is an immense nursing shortage. I applied for a job online, and the next business day, 3 recruiters all from the same healthcare team (just different branches) called me and told me they will forward my name to nursing managers, and true enough, I got a call that day and another one the next day and so on, all asking for an interview the next day. It was tough choosing one since they all needed additional staff. They even give out bonuses for their employees who are able to refer an RN to their hospital.

    If you are applying, especially choose a position where you are really qualified, and that you have preferred qualifications to increase your chances of getting hired. I got hired a week after I started applying.
  6. by   hope3456
    Not much of a shortage in northern colorado. It seems like we are a pretty popular place to relocate to, as I know of many RN's who have moved here from out of state. Fairly decent wages and a reasonable housing costs.

    My theory is that the more expensive places to live are where the 'shortages' are.
  7. by   mctina_20
    everywhere almost
  8. by   wildcat81
    the hospital I am at in Michigan is downsizing so much--They are losing people. The nurses have had it and are quitting. Luckily, there are quite a few jobs (with weekends and Holidays tho) in the metro Detroit area. So is there a real nursing shortage? Or is there a mismanagement problem within our hospitals?
  9. by   Bumashes
    South Mississippi and MS Delta

    You could go on one of the travel nurse websites and check out some of the locations they are sending people to.
  10. by   Town & Country
    There's no nursing shortage in Kentucky.
    Kentucky is one of the sh*tt**** places to work as a nurse.
    It's an "at-will" state.
    You should have read what the KY BON just put in their newsletter about the California nurses unionizing........*shudder*

    KY is where the Louisville nurse who was trying to UNIONIZE (uh - oh bad word) other nurses was suspended by the KY BON for giving a NS IV flush "without a doctor's order.

    I loathe the state of Kentucky, for that and many other reasons!
  11. by   TamIam
    NPR radio recently said that Dayton, OH has the largest shortage in the US. Where they got their info, I don't know.
  12. by   piper_for_hire
    WOW. I hope I never get sick in Kentucky! This is why I'll never work in a non-union shop.

    -S

    Quote from SunStreak
    There's no nursing shortage in Kentucky.
    Kentucky is one of the sh*tt**** places to work as a nurse.
    It's an "at-will" state.
    You should have read what the KY BON just put in their newsletter about the California nurses unionizing........*shudder*

    KY is where the Louisville nurse who was trying to UNIONIZE (uh - oh bad word) other nurses was suspended by the KY BON for giving a NS IV flush "without a doctor's order.

    I loathe the state of Kentucky, for that and many other reasons!
  13. by   Mito
    Ontario: long term care and acute care hospitals

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