What should I do now that I have been kicked out of my clinical class and called a Muslim?

  1. I'm in a BSN program and was passing all my classes, including 1 clinical that I had a "B" in. During clinical last week, I had an "NPO" patient request water. I was in the room with at least 5 other students. A girl next to me attempted to give him water but I took the cup from her hand and let him take a sip. He coughed a little but was okay. There was a notice in the room that he was "NPO" but could have ice chips. I was singled out as the only one in my class responsible and was kicked out of the clinical and told I will get an F for the course. During the meeting where I was told they were removing me, they asked me many background questions. "What country are you from, what country are your parents from, how long have your parents been living in the US, do you speak Arabic," etc. I tried to explain that there was at least one other student that gave the patient a water cup, but they told me I need to take responsibility for my actions and stop blaming others. They also said I could have killed my patient and they will not let me back in clinical again. They told me, "You're an Arab Muslim man." I am an Iranian American, and denied that I am "Arab" or "Muslim" but they argued that Iran is an Arab country. I've filed a discrimination complaint against them, but I have been removed from clinical and cannot appeal the grade until the semester is over. I tried to appeal to the department chair. She apologized for the racist comments but ultimately decided it was fair for them to kick me out because the "NPO" patient was my patient for that day. They also complained that I do not interact with my peers and don't look people in the eye when they are talking to me so I failed to meet course objectives, but that was never mentioned to me before. They are saying that I don't know anything and that I am not learning anything even though I've passed all my exams this semester. I know that I made a mistake. at the end of the day, mistakes are meant to teach lessons. We as a class have learned from this, from what I can tell. I don't know why they are being so hard on me specifically or why they are bringing up religion and ethnicity. The complaint of discrimination that I submitted to the office of institutional equity, in written form, has been received. Does anyone have advice? I don't know what will happen. I don't want to lose my semester and have all my work be voided.
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  3. by   meanmaryjean
    I'm going to go out on a limb and call BS on the racial questioning part of your post.

    Who are "they" who asked you these questions? What country are you in?
  4. by   kakamegamama
    You were kicked out of clinical because you gave a patient who was NPO water. That is different than ice chips. Even if ice chips were okay, you needed to verify the order before doing anything. You put the patient at risk safety wise.
  5. by   lemood712
    Quote from kakamegamama
    You were kicked out of clinical because you gave a patient who was NPO water. That is different than ice chips. Even if ice chips were okay, you needed to verify the order before doing anything. You put the patient at risk safety wise.
    I wasn't the only student who did it. No one else was kicked out by me.
  6. by   lemood712
    Quote from meanmaryjean
    I'm going to go out on a limb and call BS on the racial questioning part of your post.

    Who are "they" who asked you these questions? What country are you in?
    "They" would be my instructors. All of them were in the meeting, but the administrator was the one who questioned my background and called me an Arab and a Muslim. You can call BS, but this kind of stuff happens whether you believe it or not.
  7. by   Rose_Queen
    Quote from lemood712
    I wasn't the only student who did it. No one else was kicked out by me.
    Actually, per your post above you intervened when another student attempted to give water and then gave it yourself. You were the only one where the error reached the patient. Own it. Figure out how to do better and repeat the course.
  8. by   kakamegamama
    Quote from lemood712
    I wasn't the only student who did it. No one else was kicked out by me.
    Perhaps not, but it was still the wrong thing to do. Plus, you may not know what is going on behind the scenes concerning the other students. I'm more concerned about your seeming lack of understanding of the seriousness of your action vs. your desire for others to also be held accountable.
  9. by   lemood712
    Quote from Rose_Queen
    Actually, per your post above you intervened when another student attempted to give water and then gave it yourself. You were the only one where the error reached the patient. Own it. Figure out how to do better and repeat the course.
    I still was able to file a discrimination complaint and that won't look good for the other side. Own that it is illegal to collect sensitive demographic information about a student and against university policy to make assumptions about someone because of their race.
  10. by   lemood712
    Quote from kakamegamama
    Perhaps not, but it was still the wrong thing to do. Plus, you may not know what is going on behind the scenes concerning the other students. I'm more concerned about your seeming lack of understanding of the seriousness of your action vs. your desire for others to also be held accountable.
    I'm more concerned about what my race and religion have to do with anything. I'm not holding others account, I would just deduce that if I were not present in the room that patient would have had water anyway. I've seen students who had no idea how to use a gait belt and drop patients on the floor that were not kicked out. Also, I do know what's going on with the other students involved because I've talked to them about it.
  11. by   kakamegamama
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    I'm more concerned about what my race and religion have to do with anything. I'm not holding others account, I would just deduce that if I were not present in the room that patient would have had water anyway. I've seen students who had no idea how to use a gait belt and drop patients on the floor that were not kicked out. Also, I do know what's going on with the other students involved because I've talked to them about it.
    I taught clinical for 10 years. I am still teaching in another role. You would have been kicked out of my clinical and given an "F". Your race/ethnicity/religion would have had nothing to do with it. Your putting the patient in danger would have. Your attempt to turn this into a race and religious issue rather than accepting your own culpability is quite concerning. Do you even realize the danger you put your patient in?
  12. by   lemood712
    Quote from kakamegamama
    I taught clinical for 10 years. I am still teaching in another role. You would have been kicked out of my clinical and given an "F". Your race/ethnicity/religion would have had nothing to do with it. Your putting the patient in danger would have. Your attempt to turn this into a race and religious issue rather than accepting your own culpability is quite concerning. Do you even realize the danger you put your patient in?
    Do you even realize that my patient only took a sip of water and was not harmed or almost killed? If you taught a clinical course and called me a Muslim or an Arab, I would report you. I am not the one who is turning this into an issue of race or religion because I am not the one who brought it up, they did. I hope you never do so in your class because you could be fired.
  13. by   Sour Lemon
    Assuming this is real, it's a legal issue and not a nursing one. You need a lawyer, not an internet message board.
  14. by   lemood712
    Quote from Sour Lemon
    Assuming this is real, it's a legal issue and not a nursing one. You need a lawyer, not an internet message board.
    Thank you for providing the first intelligent response. Others seems to want to pick on me, even though I am undeniably a victim of discrimination and harassment. I'm not perfect (no one is), but no one deserves to be treated a certain way or called inappropriate labels because of things they have no control over.

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