What kind of office jobs can nurses hold? - page 2

I know that there are nursing jobs that does not require patient care and I do know that you need prior nursing experience to hold those jobs..but was wondering if you know any careers where nurses... Read More

  1. by   z's playa
    Quote from nursestudentx
    I know that there are nursing jobs that does not require patient care and I do know that you need prior nursing experience to hold those jobs..but was wondering if you know any careers where nurses work in patient free environments, like insurance, medicare, legal, etc.

    do you know any nurses who chose to work in those areas? THanks

    also is it true that as a nurse you deal with a lot of poo, pee and vomit? hope this question doesnt offend anyone ...

    Ok...we've answered your question about the poop and pee thing to death.... in the other almost identical posting that you posted in the EMERGENCY forum. What's the deal with your obsession of bodily functions? Other than the fact that you want the easy way out. Please..look into a different career already for everyone's sake.

    Please see other thread to understand where I'm coming from.

    I'm sorry for sounding so harsh but come on.....



    :deadhorse
    Last edit by z's playa on Apr 17, '05
  2. by   PicklesRN
    Z...

    Yep, that was pretty harsh.

    If someone has questions and concerns it is far better to figure it out now vs. after graduation.

    If this person is looking for alternatives, cool. Nothing in the world wrong with that.
  3. by   RN4NICU
    Quote from PicklesRN
    Z...

    Yep, that was pretty harsh.

    If someone has questions and concerns it is far better to figure it out now vs. after graduation.

    If this person is looking for alternatives, cool. Nothing in the world wrong with that.
    Posting once on a forum is asking questions and looking for alternatives. Posting the same question multiple places on a site is just bugging the **** out of people, and I believe goes against our TOS here at allnurses.

    From her posts here, it appears that she wants the "prestige" of being in a health care profession, but she does not want to get her hands dirty. She basically comes across as if she thinks that what we as nurses do is beneath her in some way. I don't feel that z's post was all that harsh, considering. I feel the same way.
  4. by   LPN1974
    Quote from nursestudentx
    I know that there are nursing jobs that does not require patient care and I do know that you need prior nursing experience to hold those jobs..but was wondering if you know any careers where nurses work in patient free environments, like insurance, medicare, legal, etc.

    do you know any nurses who chose to work in those areas? THanks

    also is it true that as a nurse you deal with a lot of poo, pee and vomit? hope this question doesnt offend anyone ...
    There's not much that offends a nurse about poop, pee, and puke.
    There ARE those jobs in insurance companies who hire RNs, but you have to start at the bottom first, and climb that ladder!
    You would need a good work experience behind you, of caring for patients before you could EVER do the job of an RN in an insurance company. Patient's healthcare depends aLOT on how that RN evaluates the patient's healthcare needs and whether or not the insurance company will pay.
    How could you hope to do an RNs job in an insurance company without ever having worked as an RN?
    That means 4 years of school and a NUMBER of years working as an RN, and aLOT of contact with patients body fluids.
    You cannot get there without starting from the bottom. Face it, nursing is NOT for you.
    Last edit by LPN1974 on Apr 18, '05
  5. by   nursestudentx
    ok everyone RELAX....i was trying to see iwhat kind of careers that nurses can have :hatparty: legal nurses, case managers, etc. i heard that there ar enurses who have no pt contact so i was just ASKING. i decided to start my bsn program after one more yr of GEDs so this board is over! and i didnt post the same questions over and voer again. it was some of you guys who kept foloowing me around and posting the same rpeplies without fully understanding my motive or questions. i was just trying to learn more about nursing by asking questions. have a NICE DAY! :chuckle
  6. by   JVanRN
    I saw in an earlier post you mentioned maybe going into OB nursing. You will most definately come into contact with bodily fluids in OB. Changing baby diapers is the least of your worries there. Maybe working in the nursery. You come into contact with that stuff but on a much smaller level.

    I really don't know what to tell you ,that hasn't already been said. Lot's of those jobs your talking about. Many of those "clean" nursing jobs require nursing experience in some sort of pateint care setting. The great thing about nursing is that there are so many avenues to take, but I can almost bet my life that at some point in that career your going to have to do some sort of patient care, well you will in school at the very least.

    Maybe you can take a CNA course first just to get a basic idea. I know it sounds hard but the poop and pee and blood and guts really isn't that big of a deal. When I went into nursing school I also thought all I would be doing is giving shots and meds, kind of like an episode of ER. I never realized just how sick people can be. I had no prior experience with sick people AT ALL. But I got used to it and it doesn't bother me. I don't love cleaning poop but it's really only a tiny part of my job and it's not like my patients love doing it.

    That said you may not like it and you may never get used to it. Nursing is not for everyone. I approached my nursing career one step at a time. CNA>>LVN>>RN. This way I was able to experience it without investing a whole four years then discovering I hated it. Being a CNA is pretty hard physically...nursing not always so much but your doing more critical thinking your making important decisions, you manage your time differently. So you may find as you "move up" you don't clean as much poop and do as much basic "patient care" (the "icky" stuff you seem to want to avoid) but you can't have a major aversion to it either or think you are above doing it.

    Well this post is WAY to long. That said. Good luck in whatever you choose. And there is nothing wrong with trying to find these things out but research your choices carefully. Good night
  7. by   ERNurse752
    Quote from nursestudentx
    im sure no one likes cleaning out poo, pee or vomit..even your own grosses you out..and i sure dont want to get near them. is this bad? i would love to work as a ob nurse and i dont think i would mind changing baby diapers..i would love to manage too someday but it's going to require patient care experience. i would love to be an interior architect but i want job security and i know nursing provides that. i think nursing would be a fulfilling job because you get to help people who need your help the most and i would love to meet different people everday but poo, pee and vomit? it would seem like this would be the least of my worries when i become a nurse though but it's discouraging me. im CONFUSED......i hope i dont start my nursing education and at the end dread working..ive never provided care but for my own and i cant even squish bugs with tissue papers..i guess there isnt such a thing as a "perfect job" and the good sides of nursing overweighs the bad side :zzzzz a nurse on this forum told me that a baby's poo pee and vomit are less offensive than adults and i think this is true. just a random though :chuckle

    OH and when youre a nursing student do you have to do some "cleanings" or do you mostly learn and study?

    OB deals with the most bodily fluids of any specialty, I would be willing to bet. Some moms vomit while in labor, and some moms poop without knowing it while they're pushing the baby out. Not to mention all the blood, sweat, 'n tears.

    Nursing students do a pretty good share of cleaning people up, giving baths, changing bed linens, etc. Part of paying your dues, and it can also be a good way to assess people since you can see their whole body while you do those things. And that part won't change after becoming an RN, as long as you're at the bedside.

    Have you ever job shadowed a nurse? That would be a good idea for you, so you can get a better idea of things for yourself.
  8. by   JVanRN
    I just read some other threads that this person posted...seems this advice has been given over and over. Wish I would have read first.
  9. by   RoxanRN
    I've been reading your posts/thread for 4 days now and I'm still trying to figure you out. I have seen 50+ mentions of you wanting/needing to avoid the 3 P's (poop, puke, and pee) between at least 3 different threads - one of which was closed by a moderator due to emotions running high. 95% of the responses have said (to paraphrase), "Re-evaluate your career choices. Nursing probably won't be/isn't your cup of tea." And in one thread, I see you are looking for the fast road to the top while avoiding (still) the 3 P's.

    From experience (20 years various medical experience - CNA, EMT-P, RN), I can tell you it is impossible to avoid them if you wish to remain in the good graces of your classmates, instructors, preceptors and co-workers. You will quickly become known as the girl who's too good to get her hands dirty (even if that's not your rational). I, personally, don't do puke well. I had classmates and co-workers who gagged while taking care of poop. But they did it, because they knew it had to be done and it was their job. I learned many, many years ago to suck it up (no pun intended) and go on. It was all part of life and my childhood dream.

    So, please, heed the advice of those whom you have solicitated. Seek additional career counseling, shadow a nurse, take a CNA course. Do whatever you have to do to make sure this is what you want to do. As you have noticed, nursing school is expensive. Don't waste your money on a career you will end up hating.

    -- off my soapbox --

    Roxan EMICT, RN
    Neuro Critical Care Unit
  10. by   DidiRN
    Darn, she's been banned!! And here I was trying to think of the perfect nursing degree for her...like nurse interior designer....nurse runway model....

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