What do I tell her? - page 3

Today my girlfriend confided in me regarding a situation she recently went through. I just don't know what to tell her. We are both relatively new nurses (2 years on the job). We work together... Read More

  1. by   scrubsnhugsRN
    This is my take on the situation. Why didnt she know her preceptor left early? As an orientee, she should have been following her preceptor everywhere she went, even though she was orienting another person she should have been following her footsteps. Everything the preceptor was teaching the other nurse would have been valuable for her to learn. It is called initiative.

    My preceptor on my first day was teaching a nursing student. So she had the both of us. I was given three assignments on my first day. I am a new nurse too but I know that basics of what I have to do, just because I went to school. Bottomline I knew where my preceptor was, and I followed her even when she was teaching the student, I went in and watched everything. My first two weeks were very frustrating, not knowing anything and feeling stupid, and even overwhelmed, but I would never have walked.

    I believe there is no excuse for your friend, she should have been following her preceptor regardless, if she does an admit it is common sense that the patient is her responsibilty.

    I think she is lucky the DON does not report her, and personally believe it is a lack of good judgement on your friends part to have walked. This is probably the DON's concern.....lack of good judgement.
  2. by   RNOTODAY
    Well, she admitted the pt, so, wasnt that *her * pt after? Either way, I feel it is abandonement...
  3. by   PralineLPN
    Yes, she should have at least told someone she was leaving.
  4. by   Mulan
    Quote from truern
    How did your friend know the preceptor left work early if she didn't even come back after lunch??
    My question also, there seems to be a contradiction in the story.
  5. by   lupin
    I don't know about your state but where I work here in TN I don't even have to have an assignment to be slapped with abandonment if you just clock out. That may be the hospital policy of where I work and not the state's but since the company I work for owns most of the hospitals in my region that would vastly cut down my employment oppurtunities here. You GF made the agreement to admit a pt and then left at 330pm? That is technically abandonment. She should have just stuck it out the last four hours.
    Walking off the job in any career is very unprofessional. There is a reason there is an orientation period, one of them is to see if the job is right for the person and if the person is right for the job. Your friend may not be disciplined for this but if she doesn't gain some professionalism soon she will be eventually.
  6. by   burn out
    Personally , I would keep my mouth shut to the DON, it could back fire and anything you say to her or admit to her could further be used against you.
    The best thing your girlfriend could do is to see an attorney and plan a good offense...like why was a brand new orientee that was not being surpervised properly allowed to take on a new admission, is this their policy. I am sure they don't want their door open for inspection either.
  7. by   Keepstanding
    Aside from your friend....what happened to the other orientee ?
    Did she continue on after the Preceptor left for the day. What did she do ?
    Sounds like an immature decision was made by your friend. She needs to think about this for a long time.
  8. by   wonderbee
    What do you tell her? Maybe she should consider another line of work. Seriously. This occupation requires fairly good judgment. This whole thing may come to nothing. Perhaps the DON was making an idle threat. But either way, something's wrong with this picture. If she gets suspended or gets a reprimand from the board, it may be what she needs to wake her up. I know the OP feels badly about this. All I can say is that this is what we signed up for when we accepted our licenses. We all make mistakes. She made a mistake. But this is the kind of mistake that has a STOP sign written all over it.
    Last edit by wonderbee on Jan 31, '07 : Reason: adding to post
  9. by   TazziRN
    I hope the OP sincerely had read all of the replies, because we're all telling him the same thing. If he really cares about his GF he will tell her about this thread and the replies, and hopefully she will learn from it.
  10. by   Jules A
    Quote from TazziRN
    I hope the OP sincerely had read all of the replies, because we're all telling him the same thing. If he really cares about his GF he will tell her about this thread and the replies, and hopefully she will learn from it.

    He is is entitled to his opinion of course but it seems to me from his posts that he keeps seeking ways to justify her walking off the job. I don't think there is an excuse no matter how poorly the orientation was going or how crappy the unit was but thats just me. I wouldn't excuse leaving for lunch and "not going back" no matter what type of job you have. Have the decency to tell someone that you quit if that is what you need to do but just slinking off doesn't sit well with me especially for a nursing professional.
  11. by   BittyBabyGrower
    Sorry, that was totally irresponsible and foolish. Is this girl going to walk out everytime she comes up against something that ticks her off instead of opening her mouth as she should have? My guess would be yes. She is lucky something didn't happen to that patient since no one knew she had left. You can't even try to justify what she did.
  12. by   gr8rnpjt
    Quote from TazziRN
    I hope the OP sincerely had read all of the replies, because we're all telling him the same thing. If he really cares about his GF he will tell her about this thread and the replies, and hopefully she will learn from it.
    OP is a female, I think by "girlfriend" she meant more like BFF, Best Bud, that type of girlfriend.

    Many people are questioning how she found out the preceptor had left. That does not seem as important to me as the fact that this preceptor was assigned 2 orientees and she was allowed to leave early to visit her sick husband! That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, but still does not excuse the abandonment issue.

    I have one more thing to say. I was a new nurse one time as well. I was in my first pregnancy and had been off for about 6 weeks with severe moring sickness that lasted all day long. My first day back, I worked 3-11. I had half a unit (16 pt's) with one LPN and one aid for the entire floor. The other nurse ended up leaving after a couple of hours becase she was not feeling well. They were frantically looking for a replacement, but it seemed that I was it. I was not really feeling well myself, beside the fact that my LPN and aide were the type that hid places and went to smoke every couple of hours. I felt like I was there by myself, and had 32 pts to pass meds, I had about 7 complete care pts that needed turning q2h. There was no one to help because the LPN and aide kept playing hide n seek with me, and I was plugging along with my queasy stomach and after having been off 6 weeks. I went into a room and the pt's daughter complained that mom had waited 45 minutes for her hycodan which she had requested for her cough. I explained that we were short staffed and I was pretty much alone on the floor and if she had any complaints she could discuss with my supervisor. I though my supervisor would have my back, but an hour later she had chased me down and admonished me for saying we were short staffed. she said we were not shoft staffed because I had an LPN and an aide. . I could not believe my ears. I told her you know what they are like, they hide all shift, and I am left doing all the work. I looked her dead in the eye, I said, "have you had any luck replacing the other nurse that left, because you are in for a bad night because I quit!"
    She looked at me blankly and said she had not found anyone. So I told her she better keep looking, and I walked away.
    She sat at my nursing station calling nurses, and about 15 minutes later I came back and told her I would stay to the end of my shift, but I truly was quitting and not coming back.
    My point, is that although I was having a really bad day, and pregnant with morning sickness all day long to boot, and getting yelled at for saying something that I felt was completely appropriate, I stayed to the end of my shift, then I did quit.

    My age at the time? 23.
  13. by   TazziRN
    Quote from gr8rnpjt
    My point, is that although I was having a really bad day, and pregnant with morning sickness all day long to boot, and getting yelled at for saying something that I felt was completely appropriate, I stayed to the end of my shift, then I did quit.

    My age at the time? 23.
    And therein lies the difference between the OP's GF and the rest of us......she would have been well within her rights and would have been applauded for quitting without notice at the end of the shift, but to just walk off the job without saying anything in the middle of the shift.........

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