Video RN screaming, dragged into police car d/t refused blood draw on unconscious patient! - page 30

July 31 2017, guy fleeing police crosses median and slams into truck and dies. The truck catches fire severely burning the innocent driver, Mr. Gray, who was taken to SLC University. Police later... Read More

  1. by   macawake
    Quote from angelnursedf
    Yes I did. She shouldn't have been yelling! That DID NOT help the situation at all.
    You picked an interesting thread to resurrect. Welcome to AN.

    Well, if you ever get wrongfully arrested and manhandled I guess you can lead by example and be calm and deferential. I have never been arrested and don't know how I would react, but I have placed thousands under arrest (previous career) and it's not uncommon that arrestees cause a ruckus. Some shifts I feared I might suffer permanent hearing loss, and I'm only half joking.

    In this particular case the person who got arrested hadn't actually committed a crime and the officer in my opinion behaved egregiously. I interpret the nurse's screams as panic, she probably couldn't believe what was happening to her. It was likely quite a humiliating experience to be dragged away like that with coworkers as witnesses and she might have been afraid of what was going to happen next. So while it's probably correct that her screaming didn't help the situation, I don't think it's difficult to understand why a person might scream in that situation. What happened in that ER should never have happened, and the nurse was in my opinion blameless.
  2. by   morte
    when someone is wronged, as this nurse was, I want them to make a ruckus. The ED patients are not her concern at this point. angel, you are coming off the martyr, not a good role for a nurse.
  3. by   angelnursedf
    Definition of martyr: someone who is killed for their religious beliefs.
    #allpatientsmatter
  4. by   macawake
    Quote from angelnursedf
    Definition of martyr: someone who is killed for their religious beliefs.
    Oh, I think you understood morte's point perfectly

    Quote from angelnursedf
    #allpatientsmatter
    #



    I think I need a teeny tiny violin....
  5. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from angelnursedf
    Definition of martyr: someone who is killed for their religious beliefs.
    #allpatientsmatter
    Merriem Webster:: victim; especially : a great or constant sufferer
  6. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from angelnursedf
    Yes I did. She shouldn't have been yelling! That DID NOT help the situation at all.
    You shouldn't be yelling either.
  7. by   morte
    thank you all. I think this new addition is t*olling.....
  8. by   Ruas61
    Must be the left over egg nog.
  9. by   SummitRN
    Quote from angelnursedf
    It's disturbing you Don't realize she was advocating for one patient, and disturbing MANY other patients.
    You are arguing that if the nurse slightly disturbs some patients with noise while suffering unwarranted abuse in the line of protecting one patient from battery (which is the proper term for having a blood draw wrongly and forcibly taken), she should sacrifice that one patient to prevent some noise.

    You either need to consider whether battery of one is worse than temporary noise for a few... or you need to retake your ethics class.

    And of course none of this would have been necessary if FORMER Det. Payne had followed the law as he was supposed to.
  10. by   macawake
    Quote from SummitRN
    You are arguing that if the nurse slightly disturbs some patients with noise while suffering unwarranted abuse in the line of protecting one patient from battery (which is the proper term for having a blood draw wrongly and forcibly taken), she should sacrifice that one patient to prevent some noise.
    Of course I agree with you on the ethics, but I don't think that angelnursedf meant that the nurse should have sacrificed the one patient to protect the ears of the many. I think that what angelnurse was suggesting is that a good nurse should simply have endured the tender administrations of Detective Pain in a more stoic fashion so as not to frighten the other patients. This is the reason why I suspect that the post was designed to cause a bit of a stir and make nurses aplenty leap to the defense of their manhandled sister in white.

    The gut reaction of most or perhaps even all healthcare workers seeing a nurse being treated as poorly and roughly, when her only sin was doing her job of protecting her patient, is in all likelihood one of dismay. I don't buy that a healthcare professional would point the blame at the nurse for scaring other patients, or say that she was "ONLY" being arrested (no big deal... ) and should have remained calm (meaning quiet).

    This thread was bumped from a deep slumber...

    Call me cynical...


  11. by   JBudd
    Quote from macawake

    This thread was bumped from a deep slumber...

    Call me cynical...
    Okay, you're cynical.

    Just because you happen to be right doesn't lessen that, hmmm?

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