'Unhealthy' nurses...bad examples? - page 20

I hope this post doesn't offend anyone,but I have noticed a lot of the nurses I know are overweight,smokers or both. Obviously people become nurses because they completed school,and are qualified to... Read More

  1. by   Tweety
    Quote from asoldierswife05
    Usually, when a person feels the urge to be critical of another's appearance/habits/mannerisms, etc...it is because they themselves have the REAL insecurity issues.

    I tend to agree. A person truly comfortable in their own skin, that loves and accepts themselves as they are (even if they aren't happy with that space and are working to improve it) tend to be much less critical of others.

    I confess that when I seem to be critical of others, say in traffic, the grocery store, work, it's when I'm in a bad space. When I'm in a good space, traffic doesn't bother me, I'm patient and accepting of others - which mericifully is most of the time, but I'm human too and have my bad days.
  2. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Oh, come on, you know all traffic slows down when you're in a hurry.
  3. by   CHATSDALE
    old saying

    be kind, no one else is perfect
  4. by   Tweety
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    Oh, come on, you know all traffic slows down when you're in a hurry.

    But of course! :roll :roll
  5. by   mellomom
    [quote=Corvette Guy]A persons nationality and a persons unhealthy habits are not paralleled. Heck, I'm nearly 5'7", which means on a cold day I probably look like a Smurf. If someone wants to complain about my height, race , or gender [i.e. male nurse] for that matter, that is their problem. If, someone has an unhealthy habit they can with help modify such habits.


    I am not making the two (race and weight) equivalent. I am saying that our attempts at teaching are received through the biases everyone has. Since we cannot control others' biases, I say we do the best we can and move on.

    I'd like to point out that from the outside, you are being judgemental when you assume facts about someone's habits based on their current appearance. There have been several comments from people who are still overweight/obese but who have lost a significant amount of weight. Your assumptions about their habits are based on their current appearance, but since you do not have the facts of their life (previous weight, eating and exercise log) you should not make judgements about them, IMHO.

    Put another way, the image of a person at a set point in time is just information, like a picture - its should be the context you're interested in. Since often people are private, you may not know the context, which is why, IMHO, you should keep your judgements to yourself and not knowingly let them color your attitudes.
  6. by   gwenith
    thread closed for interim - under moderator review.
  7. by   gwenith
    this thread has been reviewed and problematic posts have been removed. unfortunately that also means that some, excellent posts that were valid and reasoned responses to the problematic posts were also removed, as they would have made no sense in relation to the new continuity of the thread. we apologise to any member inconvienced and hope that the continued discussion of this topic remains fruitful and polite.
  8. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from BsnRnShiftSuper
    I Am A Nurse And A Smoker. But I Am A Good Nurse, And Can Still Educate Patients On The Effects. I Consider That My Personal Life. As Far As It Being A Bad Example, If I Quit Does That Mean All Of My Patients Would? I Think Not. Competence And Professionalism Is Way More Important, I Think Pt's Would Agree.
    this is where i struggle.
    i too, am a smoker and also an excellent nurse.
    one has nothing to do with the other.
    but honestly, i do feel like a hypocrite when educating pts against smoking.
    fortunately, i'm a hospice nurse so all my pts are dying- not much need in educating.
    i remember in earlier yrs, listening to my doctor educate me on the importance of healthy wt., no smoking, moderation, etc., and looking at her, morbidly obese- she lacked credibility.
    it had nothing to do with her abilities as an md- she was awesome and was highly competent.
    but yes, she lost me when she started preaching about the importance of healthy lifestyles.
    she was even sob when walking around her office.
    so yes, should i ever work in a specialty where i need to do pt education, i will seriously strategize as to how to educate w/o feeling hypocritical or losing credibility.
    so many of my hospice pts w/lung or bladder cancer, had asked me if i smoked.
    i meekly responded in the affirmative.
    i truly felt shame, esp knowing it was their smoking that was their demise.
    this thread has made me think alot, about my personal responsibilities as a nurse.
    much for me to reflect on....

    leslie
  9. by   amygooch
    Quote from rn/writer
    Can you say Donald Trump. That just jumped out at me.

    I think we're all in agreement that appearances can be misleading--to the good or to the bad.

    I don't know anyone, myself included, whose behavior is completely consistent with their knowledge, their wisdom, or their beliefs. We all fall short of what we want to do and be. We do things we know we shouldn't and don't do things we know we should. But at some point, the healthiest thing you can do is to stop beating yourself up over whatever imperfections you're struggling with and simply be who and where you are.

    Therein lies a peaceful acceptance of what is real. And with that can come the ability to make changes out of freedom rather than compulsion. You no longer have to strive and flail to be acceptable because you already are, warts and all. You can see your faults and know they are not YOU.

    When this happens, other people begin to relax around you because you don't need their approval to feel good. The irony is that in this new conditon, you're far more likely to have their approval. You just won't neeeed it to be happy.

    I'm attracted to people with wisdom and sense and humor and skill and a repertoire of good jokes and a collection of fabulous recipes (along with the willingness to make them) and a silly streak and competence and an appreciation of simple things (like me on some days) and, well, you get the picture.

    Turn-offs are people who are chronically angry, arrogant, boastful, scheming, jealous, vengeful, unforgiving, incompetent, careless, rude and twisted. I can still care about people who have these traits, but sometimes I have to love them from a distance.

    No mention of appearance in either category.
    Miranda, I just have to tell you that I totally LOVE your writing style!! You expressed every thought I had, and others that I would have only had if I was as smart as you, but that I totally agree with!! Thanks for expressing "our" thoughts! Hugs, Amy
  10. by   Corvette Guy
    Quote from earle58
    this is where i struggle.
    i too, am a smoker and also an excellent nurse.
    one has nothing to do with the other.
    but honestly, i do feel like a hypocrite when educating pts against smoking.
    fortunately, i'm a hospice nurse so all my pts are dying- not much need in educating.
    i remember in earlier yrs, listening to my doctor educate me on the importance of healthy wt., no smoking, moderation, etc., and looking at her, morbidly obese- she lacked credibility.
    it had nothing to do with her abilities as an md- she was awesome and was highly competent.
    but yes, she lost me when she started preaching about the importance of healthy lifestyles.
    she was even sob when walking around her office.
    so yes, should i ever work in a specialty where i need to do pt education, i will seriously strategize as to how to educate w/o feeling hypocritical or losing credibility.
    so many of my hospice pts w/lung or bladder cancer, had asked me if i smoked.
    i meekly responded in the affirmative.
    i truly felt shame, esp knowing it was their smoking that was their demise.
    this thread has made me think alot, about my personal responsibilities as a nurse.
    much for me to reflect on....

    leslie
    Leslie, that was an excellent post! The honesty and applicable personal experiences you shared shed great light on what I've been trying to communicate on this thread from the beginning.

    Thank you!
  11. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from Corvette Guy
    Leslie, that was an excellent post! The honesty and applicable personal experiences you shared shed great light on what I've been trying to communicate on this thread from the beginning.

    Thank you!
    thank you, cg.
    i find that my kids, my pts, the guy down the street, end up helping me help myself and in turn, enables me to spread the wealth.
    it's not just about nurse/pt, but about our relationship w/man.

    and back here on earth......

    leslie
  12. by   darkclown
    I can't speak about weight as I've always been thin. However as an exsmoker of 28 years I can tell you that smoking is no simple vice or lifestyle choice. It is a DRUG ADDICTION!! It is also a disease, one that has killed more people than all the wars put together. If you think terrorism or AIDS are the big threats on the world stage, think again. I often wonder if doctors shouldn't be sued for not providing the proper remedy to their pts who come to them seeking an effective treatment. I belive the medical community as a whole contributes overall to the confusion surrounding smoking by prescribibg the very drug the pt needs to quit taking ( nicotine replacement therapy). As for nurses who still smoke, knowlege has never been a cure for an addiction. As a nurse, I knew enough about smoking to be ashamed of what I was doing. I would sneak out and smoke in my car and try to hide it. I would never carry a pack of cigs in my front pocket for pts to see as I see nurses at work do now. I guess I'm much to vain.
    Last edit by darkclown on Sep 25, '06
  13. by   HD11
    Quote from cookielady,rn
    I also can't stand not being able to breathe around coworkers becasuse they smell like an ashtray.

    dude i soooo agree with you. im finishing up my BSN right now...yay ONE MORE SEMESTER. anyway, it really stinks when you are going to class and have to walk through a cloud of smoke. :wink2: .
    i feel your pain.
    Last edit by VivaLasViejas on Sep 25, '06

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