undocumented immigrant wants to be a nurse - page 3

Ok. I'm currently a nursing student who will be graduating in December from a 2 year program. The problem is that I'm currently in this country illegally have been for 10+ years. Like many in my... Read More

  1. by   TaylorMade,R.N.
    Just because you are about to graduate doesn't mean that you will be able to sit for boards. Have you started the paper work to apply for licensure? When the background check comes back it will identify why you can or can not take the boards and I think maybe point you in the direction needed to take corrective action. I would really take sometime now to see what my chances are of taking the boards instead of waiting for possible dissappointment. The reason I strongly suggest this is because one of my classmates in the RN program waited until the last minute to check and until this day see is working as a lab tech and was never allowed to sit for borads because of a past criminal background. Hope this helps.


    Quote from blessed02
    Why will you not be able to do NCLEX (just curious )The fact that you are almost graduating from a 2yr program to me i think means you can do the exam

    i also think you can get an immigration lawyer and ask for advise.
  2. by   Fiona59
    Forgive me for being a taxpaying Canadian.

    I've had a few dealings with Immigration Canada over the years and know how they treat people. Right now, I've a friend who is still waiting for her husband to be granted landed status (over ten months). This couple have jumped through all the hoops involved (his trade is in demand, bringing enough cash to start his own business, etc), but they are still waiting.

    It just frosts my cornflakes when someone says just "go to Canada". From what the original poster stated, they wouldn't be at the top of the list for acceptance. Only a nursing education (not a qualified nurse, in the US illegally). So that wouldn't make them desired.

    Immigration is a touchy subject up here. We've taken draft dodgers, economic refugees and for a while we had loads of "Bush" refugees making inquires. It makes a lot of Canadians angry that people will go travel via the US to apply for refugee status because of percieved laxer rules. Or when they are about to be deported from the US (after being there for years) suddenly decide that Canada was where they were meant to be all along.

    So yes, I am negative on this topic. Its a joke up here.
  3. by   z's playa
    Any chance you could go live in Canada for a while? If you manage to take the NCLEX there, you mights be able to come back to the US under a work visa...





    Whaaaaaaat?


    One question that's been bugging me as well....how does one apply, attend and graduate from a school with no I.D? Or legal I.D come to think of it? Don't you need to submit a bunch of stuff like police records checks, birth certificate, proof of address? Something about this story doesn't add up.
    Last edit by z's playa on Mar 8, '05
  4. by   closatssl1
    Quote from huladancer
    Ok. I'm currently a nursing student who will be graduating in December from a 2 year program. The problem is that I'm currently in this country illegally have been for 10+ years. Like many in my situation, I was brought by my parents to this country at an early age and I've been told that currently there is nothing i can do to help my situation. I know that at the end of the nursing program i won't be able to take the NCLEX and work as a nurse but i figure there is something than I can do, seeing that there is such a need for nurses in this country. ANYONE know where i can get help? Who i can contact to help my situation? I already talked to the director of nursing from my school and he didn't offer much help, so i'm hoping someone out there can point me in the right direction. Thank you.
    Huladancer, my question is the same as someone else posted. HOW did you get into school, let alone into a nursing program, by being here illegal????????? Unless you lied and said you were an american citizen, I still can't undersatnd how you are enrolled in school. As far as taking the N-clex, I would think an immigration lawyer would be helpful. Good Luck, and congratulations on your school accomplishments!!!
  5. by   markjrn
    Quote from Fiona59
    Forgive me for being a taxpaying Canadian.

    I've had a few dealings with Immigration Canada over the years and know how they treat people. Right now, I've a friend who is still waiting for her husband to be granted landed status (over ten months). This couple have jumped through all the hoops involved (his trade is in demand, bringing enough cash to start his own business, etc), but they are still waiting.

    It just frosts my cornflakes when someone says just "go to Canada". From what the original poster stated, they wouldn't be at the top of the list for acceptance. Only a nursing education (not a qualified nurse, in the US illegally). So that wouldn't make them desired.

    Immigration is a touchy subject up here. We've taken draft dodgers, economic refugees and for a while we had loads of "Bush" refugees making inquires. It makes a lot of Canadians angry that people will go travel via the US to apply for refugee status because of percieved laxer rules. Or when they are about to be deported from the US (after being there for years) suddenly decide that Canada was where they were meant to be all along.

    So yes, I am negative on this topic. Its a joke up here.
    I agree, again.
  6. by   markjrn
    Quote from z's playa
    Any chance you could go live in Canada for a while? If you manage to take the NCLEX there, you mights be able to come back to the US under a work visa...





    Whaaaaaaat?

    I kind of feel like Canada's supposed to be some dumping ground for the people that the US don't want. That doesn't sound right...

    Just an FYI for the OP...I am Canadian, I recently moved back home from out of country, and I had to jump through hoops. Maybe it isn't as easy as everyone seems to think...
  7. by   z's playa
    Quote from markjrn
    I kind of feel like Canada's supposed to be some dumping ground for the people that the US don't want. That doesn't sound right...

    Just an FYI for the OP...I am Canadian, I recently moved back home from out of country, and I had to jump through hoops. Maybe it isn't as easy as everyone seems to think...

    That's us! The new Mexico where you go to "hide out" for a while until the dogs are off the trail.

    Ever since 9/11 the borders and all that are tighter....not airtight....but a little better.
    Last edit by z's playa on Jun 24, '05
  8. by   suzanne4
    Quote from z's playa
    Any chance you could go live in Canada for a while? If you manage to take the NCLEX there, you mights be able to come back to the US under a work visa...





    Whaaaaaaat?


    One question that's been bugging me as well....how does one apply, attend and graduate from a school with no I.D? Or legal I.D come to think of it? Don't you need to submit a bunch of stuff like police records checks, birth certificate, proof of address? Something about this story doesn't add up.
    NAFTA trade agreement only covers those with a passport from either Canada or Mexico. It doesn't cover those with equivalent of green card from Canada.

    As long as this nursing student came to the US legally, then it is something that can easily be fixed in most cases.
  9. by   suzanne4
    Quote from closatssl1
    Huladancer, my question is the same as someone else posted. HOW did you get into school, let alone into a nursing program, by being here illegal????????? Unless you lied and said you were an american citizen, I still can't undersatnd how you are enrolled in school. As far as taking the N-clex, I would think an immigration lawyer would be helpful. Good Luck, and congratulations on your school accomplishments!!!
    There are many students in nursing schools in the US that do not have legal papers to be in the US. And funny thing is that many are actually in NYC schools. They are not asked anything about citizenship on many applications.
  10. by   z's playa
    Quote from suzanne4
    There are many students in nursing schools in the US that do not have legal papers to be in the US. And funny thing is that many are actually in NYC schools. They are not asked anything about citizenship on many applications.

    That is very alarming to put it mildly.

    Wrong on too many levels and for far more reasons!!!!!!!!
  11. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    There are many students in nursing schools in the US that do not have legal papers to be in the US. And funny thing is that many are actually in NYC schools. They are not asked anything about citizenship on many applications.

    That IS wrong on so many levels.
  12. by   Tony35NYC
    Quote from suzanne4
    There are many students in nursing schools in the US that do not have legal papers to be in the US. And funny thing is that many are actually in NYC schools. They are not asked anything about citizenship on many applications.

    Nursing programs here in metro NY don't let just anybody in. And as far as I'm aware, all of them are requiring a social security number and some type of government identification or immigration papers from students as a part of the admissions process. How many foreign students do you personally know of that are in NY nursing schools without legal papers? I'm also curious to know the names of these colleges. I don't know where in NY you are but at my school and many of the other area college apps that I've seen they ask for both SSN and citizenship information. If you can't produce evidence of both when you apply they won't process your application. I know this because I've seen it happen to a friend of mine who is a foreign student who temporarily lost his student status and was trying to get back into school without current immigration paperwork. Every college he went to told him the same thing: no admission unless the immigration stuff is in full compliance. He had to wait out an entire semester before he got the approval from immigration, and the whole time he was worried that he wasn't going to get it because he thought they would find out that he had been working illegally while he was out of school.

    The OP is asking for opinions on what she can do to legalize her status, and from what has already been posted I gather that she has already been to immigration lawyers who promised that they could fix the situation but were not able to. There's nothing at all that's easy or simple about immigration, especially since the 9/11 incident. Unfortunately for the OP, she has no choice but to try again with a reputable immigration attorney and see what happens. If she got this far in California with no papers, then quite possibly she can get a lot further if she hooks up with the right attorney. My advice to the OP is: no matter what anyone says, don't give up!
  13. by   huladancer
    For those of you wondering how i got into school....

    California
    Under a state law approved in 2001, the California Community Colleges and the California State University System can consider unauthorized alien students for in-state tuition if they attend a California high school for at least three years, graduate from a California high school, and sign an affidavit pledging to apply for permanent residency as soon as they are eligible. The law also extends to the University of California pursuant to an affirmative vote of its regents, which occurred in January 20026.

    Legislation has recently been filed to expand the scope of this law to include financial aid. Assembly Bill 153 would require the California State University Board of Trustees and the California Community College Board of Governors to make financial aid programs administered by the state of California available to non-resident students who qualify for in-state tuition “to the full extent permitted by federal law.”

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