Thread Re. Jessica's Death

  1. The moderators have temporarily removed this thread to give tempers a chance to cool off a bit.

    If the moderators can agree, it may be returned. However, I must caution posters TO RESPECT EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS!!

    YES, this was a senseless, preventable tragedy, and YES you have a right to express strong feelings about it! But trample on another person's response, because they don't agree?? No, folks, that's not what it's about.
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  2. 17 Comments

  3. by   Kikumaru
    I think this was appropriate. Perhaps we should focus on how to prevent another tragedy as this. Everyone works in different areas of nursing and input from a transplant coordinators along with other disciplines can help us get a different perspective of how this might've been prevented.
  4. by   Jay-Jay
    Thank you for your response and support on this, Kikumaru. Much appreciated. Moving or locking threads is rarely greeted with anything but criticism.

    After 9 pages, the topic had been pretty much discussed to death, and people were basically just repeating what had already been said, with the odd flame attack on those who didn't agree with them.

    It is indeed scary that checks weren't in place to prevent such a mistake. I think that's the most horrible part of the whole tragedy. Look at what nurses have to go through to give blood, for heaven's sake! TWO nurses have to check, and sign the documentation. WHY OH WHY wasn't this done for transplants???

    Or do doctors think they're that much smarter than nurses??
  5. by   Sally_ICURN
    I also fully support you in removing that thread.

    Thank you.
  6. by   Kikumaru
    I keep wondering if the first set of organs was in the facility for another recipient instead of the patient who received them. Is Duke a facility who performs transplants more than other facilities on average?
  7. by   Dplear
    Censorship at its worst......
  8. by   Kikumaru
    Dplear, I also do not like censorship, however, some things were being said on that discussion which could lead to: someone stroking out; hostility to the extent that we could not be rationale and also future nurses, viewing this site, would not view us as anything but subjective.
  9. by   sunnygirl272
    Originally posted by Kikumaru
    I keep wondering if the first set of organs was in the facility for another recipient instead of the patient who received them. Is Duke a facility who performs transplants more than other facilities on average?
    please see this thread..
    http://allnurses.com/forums/showthre...ghlight=letter
  10. by   Kikumaru
    This article says quite a bit! Thank you for directing me to it. Do you feel that this situation was so emotionally charged that objectivity was set aside?
  11. by   baseline
    Well, I thought we had all calmed down with the diplomatic posts of a few others, but I had logged off and I don't know what happened after that. So it goes.

    It is shocking to me that they transplanted the wrong blood type. I mean gee whiz. Like Jay said....check check check.........
  12. by   Q.
    And you know, because that is so ingrained in everyone - cross-checking etc, it almost makes me think that there was something else - something that made this error occur. I guess I have a hard time believing that suddenly this skilled surgeon and transplant team whose done this "a million times" didn't cross-check the organs.

    I dunno.
  13. by   SharonH, RN
    Thank you. It was the right thing to do.
  14. by   NRSKarenRN
    Per moderators discussion, thread is closed for reflection.

    The Allnurses Moderator Team

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