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No. 130
from TrishJK
Old Jul 01, 2009, 09:46 PM
Updated Jul 01, 2009 at 11:43 PM by TrishJK

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brilliant post NY Dreamer regarding your sadness about loved ones reactions to dementia - really moved me. By the way - where did you get that superb avatar? I want one!!!!
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No. 131
from DolceVita
Old Jul 01, 2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WYDiceDancer View Post
How nice for you that this works. Unfortunatly, most of the patients that came into my hospital (before I went back to corrections) were full of entitlement. There is nothing like worrying about "customer service" when the "customers" are drunks and drug addicts. Nothing in their world is right, and they do their best to make the rest of humanity around them miserable, cause you know, their problems are SOCIETY'S fault. Let me rant, doing so in a safe environment such as this is what keep me from working at Mini-Mart.
I don't think that poster is a nurse, student nurse or aide. Psych major w/hons in fact.
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No. 132
Old Jul 01, 2009, 10:28 PM

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If I'm just checking on things, making sure she's properly connected to whatever, stay in the room as long as the patient's privacy is being honored, ask me the questions when I've finished, I love patient and family education.

And if I'm doing stuff, larger tasks like repositioning, dressing etc., and you can't/won't help-it's fine, you're not obligated. But since most rooms or areas are only so big...STEP AWAY FROM THE PATIENT. and BE CAREFUL, hospitals, LTC, IN-Patient Substance abuse, in-patient facilities in general are loaded with viruses and bacteria. So tell the visitors about that very serious infection (that's surely somewhere, so you're not lying) and they will probably STEP AWAY FROM THE PATIENT.
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No. 133
from TrishJK
Old Jul 01, 2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nerdtonurse? View Post
If doing my job costs me my job, it wasn't worth having.
so true
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No. 134
from TrishJK
Old Jul 01, 2009, 11:59 PM

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Things I have said recently and repeatedly:
1) Just because your relative has advanced dementia doesn't mean she isn't entitled to good quality care - please advocate on her behalf!
2) If you don't like the standard of care, write to your local parliamentary members, join the Council on the Ageing, complain to the Aged Care Advocate Service, or the Department of Health, or accreditation agency, the CEO, the Chair of the Board and anyone else you can think of; and demand that care workers get better pay/have more qualifications so that organisations have to pay them more and hire them in sufficient numbers that they're not run off their feet and so they know what they're doing. Alternatively, do some volunteer work to lighten our load - in other words - pitch in constructively or shut up.
3) Don't apologise to me for advocating to me about your mother's care - I would do exactly the same on behalf of my mother
4) Yes, visiting your (demented) wife/mother/whoever does make a difference to her. She might not talk, but she knows you're there and you feel better for being there, and that matters, too.

In other words, what ticks me off about visitors is how scared of the system so many of them are. In aged care we need more patient advocacy, not less. And if my visitors wanted to move in and lighten my load I'd help them pack!
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No. 135
Old Jul 02, 2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JB2007 View Post
And you got your MD or nursing degree from where? Oh right, I forgot about the University of the Internet. I am sure your degree in I Know Just Enough to be Dangerous will serve you well.
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Now that's funny
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No. 136
from LelaRN
Old Jul 02, 2009, 01:58 AM

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If your going to stay overnight, bring your own, toothbrush & paste, and stop asking me to serve you juice and snack it's for the patients only. I don't care if the last nurse gave in to all your freeloading, you are a VISITOR not a patient.
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No. 137
from catwoman1
Old Jul 02, 2009, 05:00 AM

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9 family members arrive to see patient who has been in LTC. can't understand how she became unconsious. so I ask history and who is next of kin. Sisters look like I just told them I am Frankenstien. Who has POA? No one. You put your sister in LTC because she can no longer care for herself and no one is in charge. Call the grandson who says - don't call me, call the sisters! Aaaaahhhh!
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No. 138
Old Jul 02, 2009, 07:41 AM

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The juice/pop/water is for patient use only. The vending machine is down the hall. And no, I won't get it for you.
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No. 139
from Ruby Vee
Old Jul 02, 2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TrishJK View Post
In my experience the type of reactions from relatives you are describing are caused by fear and feeling inadequate - as is most bluster, anger, etc. I can see that you are really upset by it, but don't retaliate because it will only escalate the problem (and make you feel worse). Take control rather than buy-in. Here's how: try to defuse their fear: give them your full attention - eye to eye; stop what you're doing, listen wholeheartedly to them and respond to their feelings not their words; calmly paraphrase back to them as a question to show you have understood/are listening and to clarify your understanding - (part of their frustration and fear has to do with the fact that nobody is listening to them); give them an answer that explains/clarifies/clears their confusion and offer them an alternative solution (for example - "I can't give your mum more pain meds right now because it would be dangerous and might stop her from breathing. I know you want to help her and I can see how upset you are that she is hurting. You can help her right now by distracting her from the pain. Massaging lotion into her hands/feet/wherever would be really helpful to her.")
Remember that we are trying to develop our person-centred practice by using all means available. One of the best, cheapest and most rewarding means available is to enlist family. 1) They stop being pains in the neck and start being co-carers/helpers who thereby 2) enable you to do more with less and thereby feel better about yourself and your practice. Most importantly, 3) health and wellbeing is tied up in our connectedness to others. Therefore, the more loved ones help, the better off your patient will be.
This is a vent thread -- it's for VENTING. If you want to give advice, please put it in an ADVICE thread.
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