Thimrosal-Autism-Childhood Vaccinations

Nice. Notice under thimerosal, it lists "some preparations" or "trace"? That's important. Here's the FDA on routine pediatric vaccinations: http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#t1

Easy. I never argued that. You're created a straw man argument because it's far easier to argue against. I said "the dose makes the poison", which is the point.

I then tried to show you this by pointing out the fact that for every kilogram of tuna you eat, you eat an equivalent amount of mercury as FOURTY thimerosal-containing vaccinations.

This is, of course, is a non-starter: Nearly all pediatric vaccinations are mercury-free (see FDA link).



Actually, they don't. There may be a small subset of overlapping neurological symptoms, but mercury poisoning-- both acute and chronic-- have a slew of other clinical manifestations: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/819872-overview

I suggest you read your own link closer.

There's not aborted fetal tissue in the vaccines. Did you even read the link I presented? There are merely two diploid cell lines used to culture some viruses necessary in the production of vaccines.

Everything is chemical. Water's a chemical.
You would be wise to educate yourself to how these vaccines are made before refusing out of naivety. I once again suggest you read my earlier link on this subject. It is written by a Catholic doctor.

My my my....oh well, I'm done arguing about this. I've been researching vaccines since my son was about 18 months old, so that's geee....almost 4 years.....so don't tell me to educate myself! I'm not going to waste my time. Sorry, but I don't look at one link and say that's the fact. If you don't want to trust the CDC on what's in the vaccines, then I don't know what to tell ya. :/ LATER!

Hi pagandeva,

If you're going to be working with kids I would suggest using the American Academy of Pediatrics as your starting point for guidelines and recommendations for parents. Doubtless this is what the physicians/NP's you will be working with will be using. When I was doing rotations in peds I started just about every sentence with

"According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, ...."

They have a section on their website about vaccines and a wealth of other topics. It's a great resource for parents - who often have trouble interpreting what they find on the internet. Sometimes parents think they have "researched" something when really they found some very biased sources.

It was my understanding that it is not good practice to create the presumption that there is a "controversy" surrounding vaccines or that "there is conflicting research and the medical community hasn't made up it's mind" when educating parents about vaccines.

The statements by medical, nursing and public health organizations surrounding vaccines are not ambiguous. Of course parents are free to make up their own minds (as are we as individuals), but as health professionals involved in the care of children reputable organizations should be our resources when working in a professional capacity.

http://www.aap.org/featured/vaccinecourt.htm

Fair enough.

I am telling you to educate yourself because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of several major components of biological science. It's not meant to insult you-- I want to explain to you and any other lurkers why your viewpoint is not shared by that of science's, and it's hard to do that when we aren't speaking the same language, if you will.

Your link from the CDC lists and corroborates with my list from the FDA and other sites. However, you are interpreting what the CDC link says incorrectly. The FDA link is clearer, to that extent. It lists when each vaccine was made thimerosal-free.

You can even see which brands contain which, and then ask for specific brands at the pediatrician. There is no good excuse not to vaccinate due to fear of thimerosal ingestion, when you have the ability and the knowledge to avoid such products.

However, that's only one side of the coin.

The second issue is that we are at an impasse regarding the understanding of dosaging. Once again, I can only reiterate by explaining that you receive many orders of magnitude higher exposure to organic mercury in seafood than you do in the sparse few thimerosal-containing vaccines available. An adequate analogy is acetaminophen. Everyone knows it can be harmful to your liver, however, while 500-1000mg doses are perfectly safe for most adults, if you were to multiply that by 100 and ingest 50-100 grams instead, you would be facing a painful and likely inevitable death.

Of course, on the contrary, if you were to divide that dose by 100, and take 5-10 mg, you would experience none of the therapeutic effects and your body wouldn't be affected one way or the other, even if your liver function was poor to begin with.

When you divide that dose by 100, you start to get an adequate picture of what we're talking about.