Thimrosal-Autism-Childhood Vaccinations

Deva, this has been thoroughly debunked time and again.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14519711

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12880876

According to the CDC site....these are the vaccines that contain mercury: DTaP, DTaP/Hib combo, DT, Td, Hep B, Hib, flu, and a couple others that aren't routinely given, like rabies, etc. It doesn't matter how much toxin is in each vaccine.....they're toxins, there is no safe amount. It's not only the mercury either, there's other toxins as well that are in vaccines. Also, some of these vaccines are given 2-3 and sometimes 4-5 shots at a time.....that's a lot for a little body to handle. Another issue of mine is the fact that there's aborted fetal tissue in some and other animal products! I wish they would make vaccines safer and healthier.....but until they do, I'll continue refusing certain vaccines for my kids.

I think we also need to take a few other ideas into consideration. In the early 1900's there was not enough info about Autism, and many of these children were labeled 'retarded' and sent into group homes and 'looney bins'.

I believe that if we look back we will see that numerous adults actually have an Autism spectrum disorder, something that was not properly dianosed until fairly recently.

Autism is also GENETIC. There are families that refuse to vaccinate their other children based on an older siblings autism, YET these younger children will get autism without ever being vaccinated. We KNOW that there is a genetic link, we do need more research though.

Autism is such a complex disorder..

Citation needed. You make the claim, back it up. My source lists otherwise.


WRONG! The dose makes the poison. This is true for every single chemical you put in your body (anything you eat or drink). And toxin has a very specific meaning in medicine-- mercury does not qualify as such. Any other use of the word toxin is as a nebulously vague buzzword. You might as well give up eating, drinking, and even breathing if you wish to avoid any and all contaminants measured in parts per millions or billions that have no biologic effect.


Citation needed. I detect a shifting of the goalposts.

We've already established, per my link, that very few to none of routine childhood vaccinations contain mercury. This said, all research on this issue shows it is not "a lot for a little body to handle". I assure you measles, mumps, rubella, polio, diptheria, whooping cough, et al are "a lot for a little body to handle", in comparison.

The use of diploid cell lines is not a health and safety issue. It's a moral issue. That's an entirely different can of worms.

Here's a primer I hope will further your understanding of why and how: http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html

Oh, autism is very clearly genetic. From just last week:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-mmg020409.php

Ooooh, thanks for that link!! I have been studying like a maniac, so I have not kept abreast on the latest research.

Here's the list of ingredients from the CDC.....
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-1.pdf

How can you say that mercury isn't harmful? There's plenty of proof out there that states otherwise. It's a heavy metal, it causes neurological damage. Metal poisoning and autism have the same symptoms. I'm glad you think your link is the truth, but according the the CDC themselves, there's still mercury in some vaccines.....all of those that contain mercury are normally given to babies/toddlers. And yes the fact that there's aborted fetal tissue and other animal products is another issue. Although they're not chemicals.....I personally don't think it's healthy exposing some other foreign DNA into my child or even myself for that matter. However, I'm pro-life so that's why I refuse those vaccines.

No one says mercury isn't harmful. It has been proven that the small doses of Thimerosal in a very few vaccines is not harmful.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4927a5.htm

Notice to Readers: Summary of the Joint Statement on Thimerosal in Vaccines

In June 2000, a joint statement on thimerosal* in vaccines was prepared by the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP), the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), and the Public Health Service (PHS) in response to 1) the progress in achieving the national goal declared in July 1999 to remove thimerosal from vaccines in the recommended childhood vaccination schedule, and 2) results of recent studies that examined potential associations between exposure to mercury in thimerosal-containing vaccines and health effects. In this statement, AAFP, AAP, ACIP, and PHS recommend continuation of the current policy of moving rapidly to vaccines that are free of thimerosal as a preservative. Until adequate supplies are available, use of vaccines that contain thimerosal as a preservative is acceptable.
A joint statement issued by AAP and PHS in July 1999 and agreed to by the AAFP later in 1999 established the goal of removing thimerosal as soon as possible from vaccines routinely recommended for infants. The goal was established as a precautionary measure. No evidence existed of any harm caused by low levels of thimerosal in vaccines. Public concern had been expressed about the health effects of mercury exposure of any sort, and the elimination of mercury from vaccines was considered a feasible means of reducing an infant's total exposure to mercury in a world where other environmental sources of exposure are more difficult or impossible to eliminate (e.g., certain foods).
Since July 1999, substantial progress has been made in removing thimerosal from vaccines. As of March 2000, all U.S. children had access to hepatitis B vaccines that do not contain thimerosal as a preservative. Beginning July 2000, only single-dose thimerosal-free Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine will be produced in the United States; previously manufactured multidose vials containing thimerosal still may be in distribution. One diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis vaccine (DTaP) that does not contain thimerosal is available, and it is projected that additional DTaP vaccines without thimerosal as a preservative will become available in early 2001. On the basis of this progress, the most likely maximum amount of ethylmercury that an infant may be exposed to from the routine vaccination schedule has been reduced by 60%, from 187.5 µg to 75 µg. Measles-mumps-rubella, varicella, inactivated polio, and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have never contained thimerosal.
Research on the potential health effects of exposure to thimerosal is continuing, and findings will be monitored closely by PHS to determine whether any changes in policy are needed. AAFP, AAP, and PHS, in consultation with the ACIP, reaffirm the goal set in July 1999 to remove or greatly reduce thimerosal from vaccines as soon as possible. On the basis of information from the Food and Drug Administration and manufacturers, PHS projects that the United States will complete its transition to a secure routine pediatric vaccine supply free of thimerosal as a preservative by the first quarter of 2001.
The vaccination of children in much of the world will continue to require the use of multidose vials because of cost, production, and storage capacity. Multidose vials require a preservative to prevent microbial contamination after the vial is opened. For multidose vials, manufacturers are encouraged to seek alternatives to thimerosal.

That's great, but do you really think a multi-billion company with come down on their own recommendations?

Baby Boomers also used Day Care more than their parents . . . .autism increased during this time . . .so, that means putting kids in day care caused it.

I'm with all the folks using scientific studies to show that thimerosal does not cause autism.

P.S. hypocaffeinemia . . . I applaud you.


steph