They Think I'm Working Christmas?? - page 5

Ok so where I work they apparently don't tell the staff what they're working Christmas because they don't want to hear the moaning...(?). Well that has annoyed me already, but I had calmed down... Read More

  1. by   jimthorp
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me
    Anything less than a 30 day notice for a holiday schedule is just plain unacceptable to me.

    That's quite noble of you to place the needs of your employer so high. It is true that without "an" employer you would not have a home to go to but that's not exclusive to "this" employer.

    This business will not in the forseable future experience a downslide that results in the loss of thousands of jobs and the closing of places of business. Your needs in such times, despite how many sacrafices for the "needs" of an employer you have made, are the last thing on your employers mind. I know as I have lived it several times. Never again will I hold the needs of my employer above my own.

    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
  2. by   CarVsTree
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me
    :roll :roll :roll

    I'm laughing because you've GOT to be JOKING! Are you for real???

    OP worked 24 hours between Sat. Night and Christmas and then was scheduled to come back less than 8 hours later for 3-11 on Christmas. That isn't even allowed at my hospital.

    without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas...
    Without nurses my employer wouldn't have a hospital.
    Last edit by CarVsTree on Dec 22, '06
  3. by   mercyteapot
    You know, every time someone lets a hospital get away with this, they empower the hospital to do it again and again. I am all for the OP not letting them get away with it. This attitude that we owe our employers something more than an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is nonsense. The honest day that jodyangel will be working ends at 7 am Christmas Day. She doesn't owe this hospital her health or sanity just because they are so kind as to allow her to 32 hours within a 52 hour period, over a holiday weekend no less.
  4. by   AliRae
    Jodyangel- are you unionized? If so, DEF take that one to your shop steward. I was a wide-eyed new grad this past summer, ready to drop anything to work extra hours for my hospital. Until we went on strike. And our HN's were inside calling us scumbags. Showed us how much we were actually valued. I'll still work extra hours if it suits me, but I'm not falling all over myself. I just can't believe your employer let their disdain for all of you be as evident as to give 3 days notice for Christmas! Stick to your guns, baby. And as far as the 8 hour thing between shifts goes... doesn't your hospital make you clock out at 7:30? If so, you've then got less than 8 hours between the shifts they seem to think you should be working, and that seems a little less than legal, no?
  5. by   SharonH, RN
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me

    I admire a good work ethic but you give your employer way too much credit. The relationship between an employer and employee is a business relationship: You give them labor and they pay you in return. You owe them nothing more than that and you certainly do not have to "give back" to them at holiday time. And giving them credit for having a home to go to is just wild. They don't own you and they do not have the right to hold you up until 3 (or 5) days before the schedule comes out while they decide when they can use you.
  6. by   Miss Mab
    All I can say is WOW. I am constantly amazed at what some of you all have (?) to put up with out there. My job has it's share of nightmares and stresses(busy inner-city ED with all its attendant problems) but I am just dumbfounded with what goes on in other areas.
    We staff between 8 and 12 nurses throughout the 24 hours(I have no idea how many different people that adds up to--not a staffing guru) but it sounds like we may be unique in that No One is working ANY holiday this year(Thanksgiving, xmas Eve or Day, New Years Eve or Day) that did not ask for and request that shift. Some, including me so low on the totem pole, are not working any of the major holidays. A few people even got bumped from their requests because of seniority and so will not be working. We do get Time and a half for all the above mentioned and, yes, including the eve's and night before's for night shift so that certainly helps. Heck, I even get time and a half some sunday night in the middle of Jan. because it's before Martin Luther King day!
    I just don't get it. Why the huge disparity from the horror stories I read here? Not to start another dead horse beating but I can only say that having a good contract(yup, that awful Union word) obviously goes a long way to avoid the fiasco's ya'all are putting up with.

    Miss Mab
    again, not in any way super pro-union but I can tell you I would never do this job in the environments many of you describe and for the $$ I hear about. We are worth more.
    Last edit by Miss Mab on Dec 22, '06
  7. by   jodyangel
    Quote from AliRae
    Jodyangel- are you unionized? If so, DEF take that one to your shop steward. I was a wide-eyed new grad this past summer, ready to drop anything to work extra hours for my hospital. Until we went on strike. And our HN's were inside calling us scumbags. Showed us how much we were actually valued. I'll still work extra hours if it suits me, but I'm not falling all over myself. I just can't believe your employer let their disdain for all of you be as evident as to give 3 days notice for Christmas! Stick to your guns, baby. And as far as the 8 hour thing between shifts goes... doesn't your hospital make you clock out at 7:30? If so, you've then got less than 8 hours between the shifts they seem to think you should be working, and that seems a little less than legal, no?
    Nope no union. And I clock out when I'm done in the am..usually more like 8am lol.
  8. by   flashpoint
    LOL...I can relate. I am working 6 am - 6 pm tomorrow, 10 pm - 2 pm Sunday, and 6 am - 6 pm Tuesday. My schedule was a little less messed up until today, but they fired a nurse for refusing to come to work during a snowstorm. It wasn't snowing when her shift started, it had stopped snowing by the time she would have been off, and she no call / no showed the following day. I see why they terminated her, but it really bites that it is complicating my holiday even more!

    Best of luck to you...
  9. by   TazziRN
    Quote from suemom2kay
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    Without nurses my employer wouldn't have a hospital.
    I think I like you......... :Santa1:
  10. by   ginger58
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me
    Total disagreement. Why are you whining about people that whine too much? Just because you get your schedule five days ahead doesn't make it civilized.:spin:
  11. by   AliRae
    Quote from jodyangel
    Nope no union. And I clock out when I'm done in the am..usually more like 8am lol.
    I should probably hate my union for the fact that I had to stand out on the sidewalk for a month in monsoon season this summer, but I have to say I'm more pro-union than ever. We fought for respect, and we got it ... better health coverage and the rat president of our hospital was just kicked out. I would never work without a union.

    Not that that helps your current situation at all ... *sigh* If I wasn't working 4 days straight up through Christmas, I'd offer to come on over and help out! =) (Unless you work with old people, because, lets be honest - they kind of scare me!)
  12. by   TheCommuter
    I would quite happily agree to work Christmas if my workplace would agree to pay me triple time for coming in to labor on the holiday.

    Otherwise, count me out!
  13. by   Ruby Vee
    [font="comic sans ms"]i just found out this afternoon (december 22) that i'm working christmas. i'm thrilled! dh is working, and i didn't want to sit home alone! (of course, my situation is much different.)

    i can see why the op is upset -- that's fracked up on so many levels. inadequate notice, inadequate rest between shifts!

    but i couldn't resist sharing my good news.

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