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- May 9, '12 by VivaLasViejasQuote from DizzyLizzyNurseThank you, thank you, thank you!Thank god as a student you learned all that. I should have thought of that when I was on Paxil and gained 50 lbs in 2 months on it. But you know, was able to actually get out of bed and shower and function. Thinness should be above my ability to function as a human being and not be depressed and suicidal!
BTW I'm doing my third half marathon in a year in September. Just because I'm a fattie doesn't mean that I'm not in shape. I have trouble controlling what I eat. People who are depressed sometimes do that and they learn to comfort themselves that way. Have you taken psych yet? I'm trying to learn to boost my emotions through exercise instead of intake but hearing someone be harsh to me about my weight makes me want to give up. Kind words and encouragement go a lot farther than humiliation and tearing someone down.
I've struggled with my weight since my early 20s when I started having babies, and it's a battle I know I'm losing, even though I refuse to give up entirely. It's just so disheartening to go on psych meds and gain 20 lbs in two months when I was already 300 lbs. to begin with!
Let's see what my choices are here: do I want to be fat and live like a normal human being, or do I want to be a little less fat and street-rat crazy? Hmmmmm.......
- May 9, '12 by theleafQuote from Not_A_Hat_PersonYes, it is true, there are fat everyone. I'd say there is a good chance many vegetarians are overweight, since they do seem to eat more dairy than the average meat eater. As for your comment on veganism, I have to say I take some offense. Yes, there are plenty self righteous vegans, just as there are self righteous carnivores, omnivores, pescataraians, what have you. That does not mean someone who chooses to eat a plant based diet is stuck up, that would be making an assumption (an untrue one at that). Perhaps you take caring for all living creatures and their health and well being, as well as the environment, as someone who is stuck up (I don't). Also, I'm curious as to what you think of the health benefits of adopting a plant based diet, such as reversal of heart disease, weight loss, improved diabetes management.There are plenty of fat vegetarians out there, and veganism seems to cause extreme self-righteousness.
- May 9, '12 by Esme12Quote from brandy1017When I was 18 and a brand new nurse I was lifting a CVA patient, 6'4'' 280 lbs, with a lift that broke and injured my back that needed back surgery and a spinal fusion. But should I treat that patient any different because he hurt me? Should I not want to care for all patients like him for fear of getting hurt? Because hospitals refuse to buy equipment makes it OK to discriminate against these patients? Is it really OK to treat them any different and with less respect?This is the main problem, too many of us are being injured and something needs to be done! We need and deserve and must demand safe working conditions that include ceiling lifts and sit to stands! We should not have to be victims of a cheap hospital that treats us a disposable widgets to be cast off after we are left injured! It is the manager and hospital's responsibility to protect us and arm us with the tools we need to safely do the job! They must open their eyes and recognize the dangers we face in this obesity epidemic and do something to help us, not ignore us and shortchange us to save money for the budget!!!
When did we as nurses become so judgemental and lose our empathy? All those things they tell you to do....buy organic: sure but can you afford it? Why was the food supply allowed to be tampered with to begin with....as they lied to us. Buy organic...some people are on fixed incomes and can't afford to pay triple for their food. Ground meat is cheap and how do you stretch it....add pasta or rice.
We have medicine that fix erections (which a lack of one causes no health risks) but diet pills are out of the question. The obesity will going to kill me but so will the cure. It's all a gimmick......the older I get the more I believe in conspiracy theories. I have to pay twice the amount for "free range" chickens....why did they lock them up to begin with? Shooting up the cows with hormones, steroids and antibiotics...is this why auto-immune disorders are so prevalent?
Like I said before....an alcoholic that has been sober for 12 days gets a standing ovation I lose 12 pounds I get a that's nice but you have a long way to go. For those who have never struggled with real weight issues really have no clue how difficult it is. I hear a lot of It hurts me! What about me? They don't care for themselves, why do I have to take care of "Them"
What about that poor patient that sees the disgust on your face and hears every word you say? Do any of you realize how much carries to the patient's room when they have nothing better to do than listen to your conversations. Like brandy1027 said about "Them" and certianly know how "those" obese patietns hurt her. Do you realize they know you don't want to care for "them"? Is that fair?
There but for the grace of GOD go I.........A little empathy please.
- May 9, '12 by nursel56Quote from Not_A_Hat_PersonI think it's because you have to be extremely motivated to go through the time and expense and inconvenience involved there, especially the raw foods approach. You also have to believe in unfounded science and that any authority who says humans might actually need at least some meat or other complete protein are being dishonest.There are plenty of fat vegetarians out there, and veganism seems to cause extreme self-righteousness.
There are some for whom it is not a crusade, though. They just choose their diets and don't attempt to convert others.
- May 10, '12 by Andy DroidQuote from rubatoPerhaps there should be a minimum mandatory physical requirement to be allowed to be in the medical field? required gym time perhaps?I have heard major complaints from my friends who are nurses because when a patient is morbidly obese, they are HEAVY! Nurses are throwing their backs out trying to help them
if the job requires moving people, and there's what? ..... 70%?? .... of the population is obese, then shouldn't you be required to be both physically and mentally able to do the job?
There's a reason you don't see people under 4 feet tall in the NBA.
- May 10, '12 by nursel56Lifting obese people isn't a matter of whether or not one person can lift a person, but of inadequate staffing. You better have somebody tail the nurse out of the gym to make sure she doesn't stop off for a Western Bacon Cheeseburger on the way home.
- May 10, '12 by Andy DroidGreat... now I want a bacon cheeseburger.....
Screw it... I'll type this then go make 2 just incase I want a second.
I know it's the more the merrier and all that, but the last time I was at the hospital, the nurse who took my bp and did the questionaire thing was so tiny.... standing up, the top of her head MIGHT have come to my sternum, and I'm only 5'9. She was also a very petite girl.... I'd be suprised if the average person couldn't give her a "bear hug" with one arm.
Sure, there's equipment to help and all that... but really... if there was some kind of emergency, and she had to move a big guy "right now", and nobody was there to help......that big guy wouldn't be going anywhere.
Now to go throw some bacon on.
- May 10, '12 by WeepingAngelI know that some people poo-poo exercise, but I tell ya. I never felt better than when I was running 2+ miles a day, working a physical job outdoors, and getting enough sun and fresh air and exercise. I didn't want to eat a cheeseburger, I wanted to take care of my body.
As for taking care of obese patients... I don't like trying to transfer a 350 pound person on a slideboard who either can't or won't help themselves, just like I don't like trying to roll confused patients who push back at the wrong time and put our staff in the ER with strains and sprains.
- May 10, '12 by nursel56Andy - you have a good sense of humor! The best solution really is what some other countries have - "lift laws". We know we aren't supposed to take the risk to the patient and ourselves when we need to transfer, help ambulate, etc a patient but the reality is that nurses, and more so CNAs do it every day as they view it as not having a choice.
- May 10, '12 by pinkfluffybunnyHaving empathy does not mean ignoring the obvious. Over indulging in drugs, alcohol, unsafe sex, food..... Can effect our overall health. A persons weight can determine the ability to care for a person, short staffing has seen to that. Being overweight does increase health problems which, in turn may decrease job performance and cost of insurance. Choices that are may everyday can exclude a person from a job. I can't smoke weed and have my job, so I don't smoke weed. If I want to work at the skinny hospital I need to eat less and workout more. At 5'6 170 pounds I am fluffy, I take personal accountablity for my love of doughnuts and lack of exercise.