the term "animal nurse" - page 7

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  1. by   Ortho_RN
    Well these particular vet techs do have issues... ANd their comments are rude.... When I was a CVT, I was happy with my title.. My problem was within my own profession only b/c it wasn't regulated, and some 18yr kid could call herself a vet tech, when all she did was restrain the animal and clean cages... Don't get the assumption that all techs are not happy with being called a Tech that isn't true... Heck half those people on that site probably haven't even gone to school...

    And I don't think an animals life is at the same value level as a human... But when someones fur baby came in, hit by a car barely alive.. We did EVERYTHING possible to save it.. We didn't just say, oh its a animal. They can get another one... Some people love their animals ALOT and their animals are their family...

    I guess the only simularity with them is in both professions you have to love what you do, and want to save/help your patient whether its a furry one or a human one
  2. by   Ortho_RN
    OH and just a curious question... What if your pet came into a clinic and needed blood... Do you know where they get it from???

  3. by   teeituptom
    the little piggie blood bank of course
  4. by   teeituptom
    sorry I should have resisted that
  5. by   Ortho_RN
    Quote from teeituptom
    the little piggie blood bank of course
    LOL.. Nope..

    My dog was the donor dog at my old clinic, so if a dog came in needing blood I would rush home and get my dog and bring her back for them to draw blood off of her... Keep in mind they no way need the amt. that humans do.. We would pull of a syringe (60cc-100cc) and give it..

    If my dog wasn't available and we had a dog that was just boarding with us, that we know is healthy we would try to contact the owner asking them if it was ok...
  6. by   teeituptom
    But maybe I should have
  7. by   teeituptom
    Quote from Ortho_RN
    LOL.. Nope..

    My dog was the donor dog at my old clinic, so if a dog came in needing blood I would rush home and get my dog and bring her back for them to draw blood off of her... Keep in mind they no way need the amt. that humans do.. We would pull of a syringe (60cc-100cc) and give it..

    If my dog wasn't available and we had a dog that was just boarding with us, that we know is healthy we would try to contact the owner asking them if it was ok...
    Do they have blood types
    could you give blood from a pitbull to a toy poodle
  8. by   Ortho_RN
    Quote from teeituptom
    Do they have blood types
    could you give blood from a pitbull to a toy poodle
    Yeah.. but they have about 8-12 different blood types... Unlike humans dogs don't have antibodies against other blood types, so the chance of a dog having a reaction is pretty slim... However if this dog has gotten a transfusion before then they do need crossmatch blood, incase they have developed antibodies.

    Cats are different they only have 3 blood types, and cats are more likely
    than dogs to have a reaction so they need to be typed and crossmatched.. Especially some of the more rare exotic breeds of cats..

    Sorry too much info lol
  9. by   leslie :-D
    i hope they test for AIDS...
  10. by   teeituptom
    Thanks I didnt know that

    we live and learn
  11. by   Persephone001
    Let's face it everyone, the only people who care about our titles is us, our co-workers and our employer. When it comes to the patient in a hospital everyone is either a nurse or a doctor, whether your a cna, a brain surgeon, an np or a janitor. Ask them, they have NO CLUE about all the different specialties and qualifications, etc in a hospital, they just figure this person talks to me like he/she is my doctor so she/he must be the doctor and everyone else that comes in the room must be a nurse. When did anyone ever stop to ask what your title is, what education did you have to get, are you licensed, what associations are you a member of blah blah...the patient doesnt really care, they just know who treats them kindly, who takes care of them, who comes across as compassionate and sounds like they know what they are talking about and they determine your qualifications from that.

    Also, I was a Veterinary Technician for ten years before I finally became sick of the lack of pay, no health insurance, no vacation or sick days, no 401k, etc. The most I ever made was when I worked in research ($20/hr with full benefits, my own desk, bonuses, etc) and I didn't become a Vet Tech to kill animals, so the money wasn't worth it. I CANT STAND IT when someone starts off saying "I worked in a vet clinic as a vet tech" but as they go on they never were an actual "vet tech" they were "vet assistants". Small animal vet clinics can rarely afford to have more than one vet tech on staff and by necessity will train others to take on the role of a vet tech. The state (kentucky) has regulations against this but basically never enforce it. I graduated from an accredited university with my associates, passed my state exam and maintained my license by obtaining ceu's every two years. Oh, and yea there are four year degrees offered out there but you WILL NOT get payed anymore than if you had an AAS. If a vet can't even afford to hire a vet tech with a two year degree how in the world would they hire one with a bachelors? Those will go on to research facilities...In ten years I never once met a vet tech with a bachelors. Anyhow, with the vet tech vs assistant things its exactly like if a hospital could hire anyone, and I mean ANYONE off the street and have them trained on the job as they go to do RN work. It is exactly like that. The RN degree and Vet Tech degree are similar but the RN degree is much more intensive, plus the Vet tech degree requires one year of pre req's like the RN but only one year of actual clinical studies which is more like the LPN, but in a vet clinic a Vet tech is the top of the ladder below the Veterinarian. There are some specialties offered now, such as anesthesia, emergency, dental and another one I think, but it doesn't matter because unless you work for a very large multi-doctor practice you can't achieve the requirements to get this specialization. Basically I got tired of having to deal with the lack of patient care because they are being treated by un-licensed,un-trained staff, sucky pay, no benefits, no opportunity for advancement, no recognition...some vets have gotten so tired of having their patients care messed up that they want to do everything themselves and your reduced to cleaning up cages, walking dogs and trimming nails. Tired of taking commands and being "trained" by a veterinar assistant who thinks she is a vet tech. Just wanted to vent, I could go on and on, been in nursing school for over a year now and haven't worked in a vet clinic since (although I miss my furry patients) and forgot how angry I was about feeling like I've wasted ten years of my life and I should have gone to RN school in the first place!

    PS And this coming from an actual VET TECH who has worked in all fields of vet med over ten years (pharm sales, research, small animal, exotic and large animal). If a Vet Tech (and don't confuse a VET TECH with an already ignorant VET ASST who is already used to being able to call themselves VET TECHS and feel no reason why they cant just go ahead and call themselves RN's as well) ever calls themselvs a 'nurse', it is in a case when they are trying to bring clarification to who they are to a client (pet owner). I have called myself a vet nurse on many occasions when a client is confused as to what I am. Just like in a human hospital, everyone is either a doctor or a nurse and they could give a crap what your other qualifications are. When I go to take their pet from them and they get worried I explain that I am a vet nurse, i am trained just like your human nurse but i went to animal nurse school and they smile and relax and all is well in their world. I am not going to sit there and spend ten minutes explaining my education and license and the difference between assistants and cna's and LPN's etc, I have patients to take care of.
  12. by   Persephone001
    Actually cats have a similar disease we call "feline AIDS" called FELV and is transferred the same as human AIDS and affects their current and long term health the exact same way.
  13. by   Fiona59
    Quote from Ortho_RN
    LOL.. Nope..

    My dog was the donor dog at my old clinic, so if a dog came in needing blood I would rush home and get my dog and bring her back for them to draw blood off of her... Keep in mind they no way need the amt. that humans do.. We would pull of a syringe (60cc-100cc) and give it..

    If my dog wasn't available and we had a dog that was just boarding with us, that we know is healthy we would try to contact the owner asking them if it was ok...
    Canada has an Animal Blood Bank. The local technical institute collects canine blood from local donor dogs. The draws are done by Vet Techs and their students under the supervision of a doctor. ******* are only accepted if they are spayed and have never had a litter. Something to do with the antibodies converting. They access the jugular and draw just under 500 ml. The blood is then kept in regional centres.

    Canine blood runs over $100/unit. A donor dog that may require a transfusion at a future date can have as many free units as they donated.

    The donor gets a scarf, treats, and lots of hugs. The companion human gets free parking.

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