the term "animal nurse" - page 5

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  1. by   BabyRN2Be
    I didn't read the whole thing, but it was very demeaning to human nurses, and not very accurate.

    I don't think human nurses are the ones with their arses up their head in this case. I had a colonoscopy yesterday, no head found up there.
    But I've got a little ways to go before I become a human nurse. Heck, I could probably go out tomorrow and be a vet nurse within the week.
  2. by   Fuzzy
    In many states, in order for a person to be called a veterinary technician, she must have graduated from an AVMA accredited program, taken the national and state boards. Most of the programs are two years long however there are also some four year or technologist programs. Sadly in other states including Wyoming, there are no state standards for vet techs. We are not even written in the practice act yet. Our state association is working on it. Technicians are not regulated nationally which is very unfortunate because this makes it difficult for consistant standards to be met. People do not realize that the person pushing drugs to their pet might be a high school kid or other wannabe with only two weeks of on the job training! Animals die and are injured because of mistakes made from poorly trained and educated people. In fact, the person who started the nurse bashing article is not a tech in my eyes. She admits that she has never gone to school, taken the board exam, or have even taken any continuing education. This kind of crap makes me very angry as it gives the vet tech profession a bad name. A vet tech is someone who has graduated from an AVMA accredited program, passed the VTNE, is a member of their state and national association, and continues to learn by taking additional coursework. The public (including you nurses) need to ask if your veterinarian hires graduate technicians. If not, ask them why. Since animals cannot speak there are some things that go on that the public does not know about. Think about it, Would you let someone clean your child's teeth under general anesthesia who had been on the job for two weeks and had never been to school to learn the how's and why's things should be done?. Thank you for letting me vent.
  3. by   cursenurse
    Quote from telenurse04
    What is the education of "vet tech"? My nursing professor explained yesterday that for the federal goverment to recognize as someone as a professional, they have to have a bachelors degree at the very least. That does not make sense when ADN nurses can be RN's. Also, my mom (non-nursing person) is a professional..but she never went to college. So I think that is a weird definition of professional.

    But, I agree that BSN nurses are better prepared to take care of groups of people and society than ADN nurses therefore they are better prepared and more professional. I am certainly NOT knocking ADN programs. I was an ADN graduate. However, in my RN-BSN program we are learning about legislative issues in health care, how to change policies, what nurse managers and administrators do, what nursing reserach is about..none of that I learned in my ADN program. If I didn't go through the RN-BSN program, I would be lost when it comes to issues beyond the bedside care of my patient. If nurses want to be empowered to take control of their work, they need to know about the larger picture. Devils advocate...sure if you are an ADN graduate and you work for years and years..you'll eventually pick up on some political savvyness and maybe even be offered education on reserach and do your own reserach through your employer.

    Telenurse, i think that you are jumping to conclusions when you say that ADN programs are lacking in political education. just because your particular adn program didn't include that in the curriculum doesn't mean that none do. in my adn program, we are being taught much about the legislative process including how to communicate with legislators in order to bring about change for nursing. don't make the mistake of thinking that ALL adn prepared nurses lack knowledge of anything besides just "bedside care".
  4. by   teeituptom
    so whats the problem here besides a few identity egoists

    a Nurse is a Nurse

    I will match my career as an AD Nurse against anyone with a bs or ms.

    a nurse takes care of people or animals, what counts is we care.
  5. by   glassam
    Let's face it: these people suffer from a serious identity complex. Perhaps if they put as much effort into creating their identity (as vet techs) as they do putting down nurses (real nurses), they could move forward...
  6. by   Fuzzy
    Glassam, I agree totally. This is why I'm a vet tech and not a veterinary nurse. Vet tech is the correct terminology for my position. Vet nurse is a term used for the waanabes because in some states one cannot call themselves a vet tech unless they have graduated from a program and taken the state and national boards.
  7. by   Ortho_RN
    Quote from Fuzzy
    Glassam, I agree totally. This is why I'm a vet tech and not a veterinary nurse. Vet tech is the correct terminology for my position. Vet nurse is a term used for the waanabes because in some states one cannot call themselves a vet tech unless they have graduated from a program and taken the state and national boards.

    If they have not completed a program and taken a board exam... Then they are NOT a Vet Tech... They are a Vet Assistant.... If the Vet field was more regulated, and made all Vet Techs become licensed/registered/certified and that term could only be used for them, then I doubt the TRUE Vet Techs would care whether they were called nurses or not..
  8. by   dlmickley
    First off congrats on your boards !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I too was a vet tech for 13 years before becoming a nurse I to can see both sides and also feel we don't need to be so hateful about it ...............



    Quote from Ortho_RN
    Ok, I was a veterinary technician before I went to nursing school... So I do understand there side of the debate.. They DO nursing care, just because the animals can't speak doesn't mean that they don't need hollistic care. And Vet Techs are the surgical nurse, recovery room nurse, radiology tech, lab person, anestesialogist (sp).... They do all those things... If they want to come up with a title that has nurse in it, I say go for it.... Not like you will get VN and RN confused... But they are very hateful in the way they are discussing it..
  9. by   mamabear
    Quote from Ortho_RN
    Ok, I was a veterinary technician before I went to nursing school... So I do understand there side of the debate.. They DO nursing care, just because the animals can't speak doesn't mean that they don't need hollistic care. And Vet Techs are the surgical nurse, recovery room nurse, radiology tech, lab person, anestesialogist (sp).... They do all those things... If they want to come up with a title that has nurse in it, I say go for it.... Not like you will get VN and RN confused... But they are very hateful in the way they are discussing it..
    I checked out the link at the beginning of this thread: boy, are they EVER hateful :angryfire And where do they get the idea that LPNs go to school for one year? Oy.
  10. by   LilyVictor
    I never say I'm a nurse, after I saw one of the ladies at my church (who was very sweet, but was a nurse's aide), dispensing nursing and health advice with abandon. "Yes, I'm a nurse, and you should....." I certainly hope when I take my precious dog to the vet's that there is a nurse there to help them and watch over them. Anyway, I ALWAYS, when asked, just quietly say I have been an RN for 30 years...
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Did you correct that lady at the church, seeing as what she is doing is ILLEGAL?
  12. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from mamabear
    I checked out the link at the beginning of this thread: boy, are they EVER hateful :angryfire And where do they get the idea that LPNs go to school for one year? Oy.
    In some areas LPN programs are only 10 months.
  13. by   braun5925
    WOW!! Who cares, they are obviously saying such disrespectful things due to some sort of personal insecurity issues. Just as the discrepency lies between, LPN, RN's, PA, MD's! We would all probably get a long a LOT better if we quit trying to compare. I know, easier said than done, but wow, I guess it's good advice to be happy where you are and be happy there are other's where they are. Vet nurse, vet tech...who cares?!?!

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