The student nurse - page 5

How do you feel about working with a student nurse? How comfortable are you with the student nurse basically taking over your patients and paper work while you observe? If you are not comfortable... Read More

  1. Visit  BrnEyedGirl profile page
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    Quote from gitanorn
    unquestionably, i'm totally comfortable and confident as a season nurse therefore, i wouldn't have any problem with this situation. in addition, i sincerely enjoy teaching and what better situation for the student to have someone to offer constructed guidance and support while performing pt. care. undoubtedly, i would be the one making sure that the student will deliver the highest caliber of nursing care to my patients, while he/she is adhering to the protocol of the facility where i work. having said that, i would teach the student the proper short cuts in order to deliver an efficient prompt total pt. care, it would be a win/win situation in this case for me and the student:d

    that was the most pc response to a student nurse i've seen in a long time!

    (now pardon me while i vomit)
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  3. Visit  leenie45 profile page
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    Nicely said!
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  4. Visit  Rose_Queen profile page
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    The OR is kind of unique for nursing students at my hospital- they can only observe and that's it. Nothing more whatsoever. I like having certain nursing students- the ones who ask appropriate questions at appropriate times (sorry, while I'm mixing meds is not a good time to ask questions). The ones who actually pay attention to what is happening. The ones who don't contaminate the field. It is more work, but for those students it's worth it. The worst student I ever had: claimed she was feeling faint when we sawed through the sternum. No big deal, happens all the time. We got someone to take her out of the room to the lounge for some water and crackers, and told her to come back when she was feeling better. Student never came back. Turned out she was curled up on the couch in the lounge fast asleep. Those types of students are the ones I can't stand- the ones who, when the instructor isn't around, don't have the self-initiative to do anything constructive for the day. And unfortunately, that experience is the one that sticks with me (and the rest of the OR, because word spread fast about someone sleeping on the couch, and the real story got around) more so than the good students.
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  5. Visit  GrnTea profile page
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    i used to get students all the time, in my first postgrad year in a pacu. i was actually astonished to have the head nurse ask me to take them, because i was definitely the new kid on the block; but they had hired three of use new grads all at once. one diploma, one adn, and me, the bsn. i would see these students shaking in their paper booties, and say, "ok, now. i know this place looks crazy and bright and noisy, but there's not a thing that we do here that you don't know something about already. really-- airway, breathing, circulation. we just do it more and faster than in most places." then i showed them how my right forearm was nearly an inch bigger in circumference from pumping up bp cuffs q15 minutes on 4-8 patients for eight hours at a time (true, but it made them laugh). then we looked at the or schedule so we could see what was coming, and more or less when, watched a new admission, heard the anesthesiologist give report to the nurse, translated it for them, and we sorta eased into doing them ourselves gently. we took people back to their rooms and gave report to the floor nurses. lather, rinse, repeat. they stopped being afraid and loved it.

    when they came back the next day they were much more relaxed and ready to do more. one even applied to the pacu when she graduated, and she did fine.
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  6. Visit  Vespertinas profile page
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    Quote from RN-Cardiac
    That was the most PC response to a student nurse I've seen in a long time!

    (now pardon me while I vomit)
    aww cmon now "PC" makes it sound insincere.

    I believe Gitano means it from the bottom of his heart and actually I'm pretty much on the same page as him. When it goes smoothly it can truly be a delight. I think this thread is asking us to tease out those rare instances that having an SN was the opposite of fun so we can constructively discuss what went wrong.
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  7. Visit  DIMMAGOLD profile page
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    I am a student nurse in a Nigerian nursing school, the senior nurses here love to work with us and we appreciate being guided with love into this life saving call. My appeal to nurses worldwide is to allow us learn with love how to be good care givers, remember every nurse was once a student and every student will one day qualify, bear in mind that someone has to take over the mantle from you someday. God bless and encourage all nurses everywhere.
  8. Visit  Fiona59 profile page
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    @ Vespertinas (sorry if I've spelt it wrong)


    Pepper ain't tough, she's Canadian. That's the way of Canadian nursing. Orientation is to learn the unit/hospital routine. New grads are expected to know how to be a nurse.

    Pepper, like myself was required to show that we could manage a full patient load before we could graduate and write our exams.

    As a new grad hire, my orientation consisted of a couple of days learning the in-house computer system, dealing with the HR paperwork for benefits, meeting my shop steward, etc. Then on the floor, I had three days orientation to day shift and two shifts of evenings because that was the rotation I was hired for. The next week I started to work, full patient load and told to ask any nurse on the floor if I needed assistance.

    No prolonged orientation period, no "internship", no hand holding. I was a nurse and expected to get on with the job.
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  9. Visit  peterbrasco profile page
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    After reading the whole 6 pages comments, it baffles me when someone comes here to share her experience and some people think because they are nurses or have been nurses for million yes, they can impose what they feel or think it is on others. Everyone here saying they are happy to have student nurses and willing to help,you can only speak for urself and not come out to state you find it strange that there is no nurse that will not turn down student nurses.


    SOME PEOPLE HERE THINK THEY KNOW TOO MUCH AND THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT. Yes caps, cos i am tired of such people on here.
    Grown man can say whatever i want.
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Apr 4, '12 : Reason: personal attack
  10. Visit  GitanoRN profile page
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    Quote from ruby vee
    what kool-aid are you drinking?
    bless your heart!!! you made my day with your remark.
    Last edit by GitanoRN on Apr 3, '12
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  11. Visit  ProfRN4 profile page
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    Some thoughts and observations from someone who stands in the middle of the students and the RNs: (and some are generalizations, some are what I have actually heard from RNs or students)

    -Students:

    don't want to get in the way of the nurse. Some, so much that they avoid them at all costs. After pre-conf, I remind them each day "get report from your primary, communicate with them. This is their patient. If I were the primary, and saw you in touching my patient before you spoke with me, I'd be annoyed."

    want a detailed report from the nurse. If I say to the student "I want you to find out more about their history, and how it relates to their diagnosis", some will flat out ask the nurse. Meanwhile I already know the answer, but they will attempt to get this info from the nurse, instead of assessing or talking to the pt, or reading the chart. There are times where the primary is caring for this patient for the first time and do not know the answer yet.

    Some students need much more direction than others. These students make the RNs job harder. They are afriad to do anything witho0ut checking with someone.

    Some students do as little as possible (may be related to the above bullet), therefore they are perceived as 'lazy', or not interested in learning.

    Some students (who are waiting for their instructor, who is knee-deep in poop, or trying to unclog a GT with one of their fellow classmates) wait right outside that room, standing around. Meanwhile, one of their patients is calling the primary or aide, because they need help. I cannot be in 8 places at once. They are well aware of their responsibilities (and do get spoken to about it).

    Some students seem to never have anything to do with their patients. Sure, this is partly my fault. I do however, believe that if a different student was assigned this patient, they'd find plenty to do.

    Some students are absolutely awesome! I never see them holding up the walls, b/c they are always with their patients, or the primary nurse. Always ready for med-pass, patients are squeaky clean, does not need to be told what they need to do, thinks out their problems.

    Nurses:

    I rarely hear from the ones that don't like them (ans yes, I know some do not like students, some people are just mean and nasty). I have one (when we rotate to peds) that is very matter of fact with me (I go on the floor with 2 different schools, and she clearly sees the difference in the students): Her criticisms are constructive, and I bring them back to my students (in a general way, not naming specific students or RNs).

    Today I received praises from all of the primary nurses that worked with my students today! They were pleased that my students were helpful, asked good questions, and did what they were supposed to. While it makes me feel like a proud mama, I cannot take all the credit. If they are good students, it shows through.
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  12. Visit  kids profile page
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    Quote from wish_me_luck
    I want to weigh in. I am a SN.
    You seem to have over looked (or ignored) that this post isn't directed at students.
    If you wonder why some nurses don't care to have students with them, reflect on the attitude of your posts in this thread.
    This thread was started to ask questions of nurses, regarding their feelings about working with students. You interjected your opinions in a thread where they aren't relevant and weren't solicited.
    If you want to discuss how students feel about working with nurses in clinical feel free to start your own thread in the student areas.
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  13. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Quote from peterbrasco
    After reading the whole 6 pages comments, it baffles me when someone comes here to share her experience and some people think because they are nurses or have been nurses for million yes, they can impose what they feel or think it is on others. Everyone here saying they are happy to have student nurses and willing to help,you can only speak for urself and not come out to state you find it strange that there is no nurse that will not turn down student nurses.


    SOME PEOPLE HERE THINK THEY KNOW TOO MUCH AND THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT. Yes caps, cos i am tired of such people on here.
    Grown man can say whatever i want.
    Well, "grown man", although your post was barely literate, I think I got the gist of what you were saying...or trying to.

    Quote: "Everyone here saying they are happy to have student nurses and willing to help,you can only speak for urself and not come out to state you find it strange that there is no nurse that will not turn down student nurses."

    If I can make out what you're saying, I can assure you that each of us IS speaking for ourselves only; the fact that we're saying much the same thing in regard to LIKING good students doesn't mean we are speaking for others. So yes, I myself do find it strange to hear of these supposed "student haters", since I've never met one. Why is that so hard to imagine? Do you come across so many 'haters' that you've never wondered why that is? I bet I have an idea why.... Nurses who don't enjoy some students, are there there? Of course. Doesn't make them 'haters'.

    But gosh, since you've singled me out, "grown man", I wonder if you're some kind of "nurse hater"? After all, you've put it IN ALL CAPS! And if you're so tired, feel free to leave.....LOL.......
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Apr 4, '12 : Reason: referred to edited post
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  14. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Quote from kids
    You seem to have over looked (or ignored) that this post isn't directed at students.
    If you wonder why some nurses don't care to have students with them, reflect on the attitude of your posts in this thread.
    This thread was started to ask questions of nurses, regarding their feelings about working with students. You interjected your opinions in a thread where they aren't relevant and weren't solicited.
    If you want to discuss how students feel about working with nurses in clinical feel free to start your own thread in the student areas.
    Oh, now you've done it! LOL.....I've been snarked at a number of times for saying much the same thing. Something about denying freedom of speech, or some such nonsense. The fact that the uproar got started because someone posted inappropriately in the first place, well, that's beside the point, I guess.
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