termination and pto benefits - page 2
by litbitblack 3,753 Views | 18 Comments
Hi guys. another question to see what others have experienced with termination. I lost about 170 hours of pto when i was terminated and was told when your terminated you lose it. But...........an RN that was terminated a few... Read More
- 1Here in TX we aren't so lucky to have wonderful labor laws. Whatever the facility handbook says is what goes.
Generally, if you are terminated you will not recieve your benefits. Check you employee handbook. Don't have one? Show up in HR and demand one to be handed to you right then.
You can try to write a letter stating the case about the other nurse setting a precendent for getting PTO cashed out. It may or may not work. Would depend on if there is something you don't know about why they allowed her to get the PTO cashed out.
I left my last employer without notice. Technically I should not have received PTO. Several weeks after my last paycheck I received my PTO. My guess is that they finally read the book full of documentation of the workplace harrassment that I endured and the inappropriate actions of my superviors and they were hoping that by giving me my money they would keep me from suing them. I didn't sue but I reported them to various state/federal agencies.
My point? If you have documentation that you can use as leverage, you might get your PTO.
- 0Jul 6, '08 by mom2michaelMy last job required you to be employed for 18 months continuously. While you could use all the PTO you wanted during that 18 months, if you quit and/or got fired w/in that 18 months you forfeited all your unused PTO. I've had other jobs where I've been paid for my PTO with my last paycheck. Really, for me anyway, it's up to the facility and their handbook and guidelines.
- 0Quote from mom2michaelOUCH! That is a really harsh rule to me. I'm guessing that somewhere along the line they had a lot of turnover and were trying to keep people from leaving.My last job required you to be employed for 18 months continuously. While you could use all the PTO you wanted during that 18 months, if you quit and/or got fired w/in that 18 months you forfeited all your unused PTO.
The problem that I see with this is that the employer gains every time because they probably don't have enough staff to "let" people take vacation time. They want to stop the high turnover without fixing the root cause of the high turnover.
I'm curious, was this place a great place to work so that people didn't mind that 18 month rule?
- 0Jul 6, '08 by cjmjmomI once worked a job and lost my PTO time after I resigned. That was when I was young and stupid! Now I have a policy, if I do not call in sick in 4 months I take a mental-health day and call off so I will NEVER lose my earned time again to any employer. There is no incentive for me to have perfect attendance.
- 0Jul 6, '08 by litbitblackQuote from pagandeva2000Basically the facility set me up for failure. The floor I worked on was a 28 bed med-surg unit. The normal staffing for that floor is supposed to be 1 charge 6 nurses and 2 pca's. they normally staffed 1 charge 5 nurses and 1 pca. so the nurses normally had 5 and 6 pts. they would float us people from floors that never had to take that many and then expect them to be able to keep up. The problems were complaints from employees about team work and not getting enough help especially from the charge. press ganey scores were in the toilet. I also had 2 lvns that were shouldn;t have been there. they continually missed orders, overwhelmed with pt load one even had only 2 pts one day and was very overwhelmed. I got a final warning after i gave my password to a couple of nurses 3 months ago when we were getting slammed and management was in the GETTING IT ALL DONE PHASE. The charge nurses were expected to get it all done but management didn' t make sure everyone had the ability to do thier part. So I was helping to get it all done but the nurses didn't have or didn't want to get passwords. well some nurses from another floor (still don't know who) used my sign on to access a nurses records who had passed away to see what happened. THen with all the crap on the floor and the nurses who needed more than I could give them and the float nurses complaining that I didn' t help them(was to busy being a total resource for those lvns) and boom another write up which resulted in termination. The nurse who was terminated a couple of months was told that since she was termnated she would not get her pto but then they recanted and allowed her to send in a written resignation. I think I should be allowed that same option. There was no difference in our cases it was plain and simple. termination = no pto yet they allowed her to resign. I believe I should have legal recourse based on that. texas is an at will employement state so I dont believe there is anything stating i am entitled to it especially since its in the hand book. but she got hers so therefore same situation I should get mine....right?I am really sorry you were terminated. If you wish to, would you share what happened? I have not seen anyone not get their time due where I live, but we have unions. I wish the very best for you in your job search.
- 0IMO if they gave it to her they should give it to you. But it sounds like you are in a unfair fight.
With what has been going on, and the fact that a termination doesn't look good and may harm future work - you might want to consider going public with stuff like this. Journalists are always looking for juicy stories and might be able to help you get your money.
- 0Jul 6, '08 by caliotter3Quote from snappy01Excellent way of dealing with the subject of PTO. Since my employers don't believe in paying for holidays as well as overtime, at my client's suggestion, I took off for the 4th of July. I've decided that on occasion I will be taking a mental health day. Most assuredly these mental health days will be on federal holidays for which I wouldn't have been paid holiday pay. Goes along with avoiding noncompensated overtime.I once worked a job and lost my PTO time after I resigned. That was when I was young and stupid! Now I have a policy, if I do not call in sick in 4 months I take a mental-health day and call off so I will NEVER lose my earned time again to any employer. There is no incentive for me to have perfect attendance.