Strike or time to grow up! - page 5
I hear so much talk about striking that it scares me to think that there are so many people who would abandon their patients so easily. Maybe in some cases where safety is an issue I could consider... Read More
Jun 21, '01[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stargazer
Well said StarGazer...It is critical at this point in our professional development that we are authentic with one another. There are enough adversarial relationships in nursing as it is, without creating more. Let us share openly and honestly. We may learn from one another.
Jun 22, '01Jared,
Well seeing as how you are or were in Germany, Moving there is just not an option for me as this point in time. So, I'll stick to doing what I do best and that is take care of my patients.
Jun 24, '01I live in the southeastern US and we will never have unions down here, however, as long as Northern and western states have theirs and are able to get what they want with collective bargaining, then I say " more power to you". We down here in lovely Alabama are grossly underpaid, very shotstaffed and have absolutley NO SAY about any of the issues that we as nurses feel are important. In the ICU where I work, the big issue was what colorto make everyone change to. I, for one would not walk out as I feel I am the only hope these patients have to quality nursing care, but I have NO qualms about working a strike. If I am going to work like a dog, then I may as well be compensated for it. I look forward to going to California in their upcoming strike. And as I share some of their concerns I think what they are asking for is so far above what the rest of us poor slobs make that it's a joke. They will get what they want because you know the old saying, money talks... If they can put a dent into what these money hungry hospitals make to get their point across then my hat is off to them. Hopefully, it will all come to be my gain.
I have been an RN for 18 years, and have seen the ups and downs of our numbers, but this time the shortage is for real and will not get better. enrollment is down by at least 50% and the mean age of an RN is between the late 20's and early 50's. People are getting literally burnt out after so many years and are tired of hospital CEO's making $300,000 a year while they tell us we will have to forgo a raise because medicare revenue is down. What a crock!
Well, that's my spiel on strikes, I will be glad to be a "scab" to insure that these patients are cared for and that I can get out of debt and not be nursing when I'm 60 years old.
Jun 24, '01weeni-a much better way to ensure that your patients are properly cared for in your part of the world would be to become an activist in your area and do what is neccessary to raise salaries and increase the ratio of licensed staff. Scabbing where other nurses are trying to do something to correct the main problems facing our profession only prolongs the strike and may cause the union to lose its bid for better staffing thru better pay. This helps no one in the long run, and selfishly helps only you in the short one.
If the issues you discuss are truly of concern to you, then stay home and clean up your own backyard-let Cailifornia and the rest of the country do what they have to do to better the situation in THEIR hospitals. Only by working together can the status of nursing improve. And it has to start somewhere. So why not let those brave enough to try do so unimpeded by you? Stay home and work on bettering your own situation, instead of underminining the efforts of others who are willing to work and sacrifice for the betterment of not only themselves, but the profession of nursing.
Jun 24, '01I live in the southeastern US and we will never have unions down here,>>
Really???? I suggest you get out a little more. Lots of nurses in Florida (Southeastern USA) have been unionized for a long time & more are unionizing everyday. For instance, Shands and the VA in Tampa are represented by the UAN. SEIU represents nurses in Lakeland. Nurses are unionized in NC & Tennessee too. There are lots of unionized nurses in the Southeastern US. So never say never - cause they're already there.
Jun 25, '01Hi beani. I respect the fact that you like many others of us in nursing are underpaid and know that you deserve more. I also respect the fact that you may not ever want to join a union. But, as a fellow southerner, I think we should do more to try to elevate our profession in this region rather than go to other parts of the country asking them to "show me the money."
What have you done to try to improve conditions and pay in your facility? Depending on the situation, it seems hypocritical to go help someone else out when your own front and backyard is in a mess.
I may change my opinion in the future, but right now, I feel that scabbing is almost like stabbing someone in the back with his/her own knife. I don't get a good feeling at all from patients not getting the care they deserve, but I get a worse feeling when I feel that a possible speedy resolution to staff shortages in a particular area are preempted by other similarly trained "professionals" who are using the guise of attending to "abandoned" patients for more money.
Jun 25, '01I can appreciate everyones rather vocal opinions on the srtike subject. I feel very srongly about my profession also. It's not that I wouldn't join a union, but I have known a lot of people who attempted to speak out about organizing and were then terminated for some "unknown" reason. I work for Healthsouth; maybe you have heard of them? But they don't give a rat's a** about a. what the patient needs and b. what their nurses do to make their patient's stay a better experience. I will take advantage of the strikes and though I understand and appreciate the fact that you hope I don't show up,know this. What y'all do up there has absolutely NO affect on how my company feels about me or the patients they squeeze money from. As far as there being "active" unions in the south, you'll never hear of them striking because down here we are all expendable. And it would be great if all the older, more experienced nurses left, because then they could some new grad for half of what we make. They don't care if the person knows what they're doing or not. We are all just bodies filling a hole. I have a family, a Husband who doesn't have long to live with NO life insurance and 2 children who'll need to be put through college. So for me, I'll work as much as I can anywhere to take care of my family's needs. I think we should all stop bad mouthing one another and realize that WE are what makes healthcare and quit griping with one another.
We will all be patients one day, and let's just hope we have one who knows what the hell he/she is doing because the nurse is all that patient has going for them. Enough said