Step away from the old nurse!

Now realizing I am the old white haired nurse how attitudes have changed from my young fledgling nurse days when respect was a given, to attitudes shown today reflected in my articles by some funny/sometimes distasteful situations encountered in the past few years. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

Now reaching my 34th year in the nursing profession I am experiencing some humorous, interesting and distasteful situations where comments have been made that honestly offended me to the quick of my being. "Back in the day" as the older generation often refer to their era these situatons would never have occurred. There was a whole different level of respect for old nurses who were revered/feared at times by patients, doctors, and staff members alike.

Reflecting back on my much younger years 1975 when first graduating as a fledgling nurse who came out of school well trained, required to wear our hair up off our collars (mine in a pony tail) so tight my eyes were slanted), tiny earrings (if any at all), nursing caps, and only clear nail polish on short cut fingernails. White uniforms, mostly dresses, with white support hose and white shoes. Finally someone came to the realization that maybe it was not a good idea for nurses to wear dresses possibly when they came across a rather large boned chunky nurse with a large buttocks bent over a hospital bed doing CPR with the tops of her panty hose, and print underwear showing, being all she could be. Maybe some scenario played out in the ER where they had to resume some kind of awkward positoin not suitable/remotely lady like position when one is wearing a dress.This time frame made me think of many older gray/white haired mentors-old nurses who wore their nursing caps iwth pride, on a good day did not "eat the young one's" as the expression goes, and taught us the right way to be a "real" nurse. Teaching/using the best techniques/policies (some long since outdated) of the time, so we would go on to be all we could be in our future careers in nursing. Many of the faces come to mind with names lost in my memory bank. Yes, some were scary in their demeanor, dingy (a few months short of retirement at the ripe age of 75) and some who had managed to maintain a sense of humor. Never was there any doubt who the professional in charge nurses were who did not have to demand respect it was given.

Presently my looks consist of a pleasant round face, blessed wih good genes, with very few wrinkles, but my hair is a snow white in color. Once a red head, I have chemotherapy induced coloring, but not complaining because in this case

bald was not beautiful, so glad to even have hair. Blessed to be a 20 year survior of breast cancer. Granted I do limp on occasion (from a totally different scenario involving an 1800 pound horse ) but do not deserve some of the blatant comments made to me recently about being an "old nurse" that I truly found offensive.

My first example was one evening a very serious incident involving two residents that required me to call administration and 911 for police intervention is the most memorable one. First to arrive was a detective with a demeanor of total professionalism, matter of fact and who immediately began the intitial paper work necessary for a situation of this kind. A short time later a yery young looking (looked like he was 12) sheriff's deputy came in to assist. After introducing myself to him as the head nurse the first words to part his lips floored me. "Mam, aren't you to old to still be working as a nurse?"

Totally stunned, it took me a minute to regroup but my quick wit soon surfaced with a trite reply "Young man, obviously your mother never taught you any manners!!" Turning to walk away I noticed a look of total disbelief on the face of the lead detective. Upon my return to the nurses station a short time later a demure, quiet deputy was sitting behind the desk with his head down not uttering a sound (maybe a slight whimper could be heard) diligently working on his paperwork.

When my Director of Nurses arrived, who happened to be five years older than me, was given this little tidbit of information she was livid. Close to retirement age herself, but just the main fact their was such a total blatant disrespect of one of her nurses.

My second example of someones mouth overriding their brain was a comment made by a family member one evening on a 3-11 shift. It had been a rough week, four days in a row of leaving late, returning home with "cankles" (your ankles/legs are all one) larger than usual for the simple fact a full moon phase brings out the best/worst in a long term care setting. A proven fact that the confusion level of some residents causes them to "fly" (fall) more and numerous 911 situations with medical emergencies seem more common.

Hobbling up the hallway (my horse injured leg was screaming "elevate me NOW-no more walking!!" I was holding on to the hand rail for support. Even a little relief to take off some of the pressure even for a few seconds was much appreciated. Looking up I saw a male visitor whom in his moment of great wisdom, possibly trying to be funny, made this

comment "Gee old nurse?-maybe you should just check in." At that very moment I am pulling from my inestinal fortitude because my brain is racing with bad words to spew-but thank heavens nothing parts my lips. A glance, my set jaw,

and lack of response should have been a clue I was less than amused. Granted my sense of humor was a tad absent

but come on I do work in LONG TERM CARE! A few days later revenge was mine, this same family member was wheeling his Dad down the hall, he made him stop when he saw me informing him "That is the best nurse here, I love her, she checks on me all the time!" Standing there red faced, stammering he managed to say "That is great Dad."

NURSE ROCK!-Young and old we are health professionals who give care from our hearts. Most of us whould not give up our chosen career for anything. Well, maybe not today?????

Specializes in OR, public health, dialysis, geriatrics.

Going on 20+ years in nursing and while on some days I hate where medical care is headed, I still love nursing.

No more requests for phone numbers....now I am a colleague. I will gladly trade the dates (happily married) for the respect I get from the surgeons and my peers.

When I reached 30 I felt like I finally knew something. At 40 others realized I did know what I was doing, and now it all seems to fall together more than it falls apart!

Here's a toast to all the nurses! Young and experienced. It is a damned fine profession made all the better by having us in it.

Specializes in psych, general, emerg, mash.

honey, things have changed. its reflected by the management who are afraid of their ass. And IT aint going to chang.

money is tight, staff is the pits. the young nurses are anal and cant go anywhere with their cell phones, texting.

I am on old male nurse, and I am getting out! time for something else.

Specializes in comprehensive cardiac care.

In relation to the above professionals, I must be ancient in years being an RN for 43 yrs. I love working with the younger generation for I feel I am still learning or perfecting what I know in the modern technologies of today. I go with the flow and try to absorb all that I can from the young and the restless. They are invigorating and so much fun. I work in a comprehensive cardiac care unit where there is ongoing change and at a fast pace as well. We have all types of cardiac issues invasive and non invasive. The younger nurses grasp information quickly and we aid each other in manifesting our "combined knowledge". I have never had a nurse be rude or disrespectful to me young or old hinting that I should "move on" or quit. I have been on my unit for 20 years and always have someone ask my opinion on how to handle certain issues or what to do in an emergency. The "young" are always there for me if I need help and are so greatful and appreciative if I can show them a few "not in the books" tricks or techniques to complete tasks at hand. It's an honor to be when some of the young RNs are on with me and say "yeah" our CCC Mom is on so we will have a good night! I feel that I offer them a sense of "security" in a way and they offer me excitement and new learning. We compliment each other!

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
although i found all of the post here very funny, i have noticed a complete lack of respect for people in general over the past several years. i don't always enjoy being called "mam" , however, i do prefer it to the many other things that i've been called.it seems that the younger generation have little to no respect for themselves, much less for anyone else. it's really a shame too. i worked in a ltc facility in the south where manners used to be something they were very proud of. now they are pretty much non-existent. years ago, when my supervisor "requested" i do something for her i would practically run down anybody who got in my way. the last time i asked over the intercom for my cna's to report to the nurses station i ended up having to go look for them because they never showed up. this was common practice at many of the facilities i've worked at over the years.

i'd like to say that at least amongst the nurses there was still a level of respect being showed, but i would be lying. as an lpn who just got a new grad, two year rn as her d.o.n. i can only say that i hope with age and experience things will improve. the general attitude seems to be that they think they know it all, when they don't. but it has been my experience that it won't take alot of time before they come to me asking for help with something. i will help of course because in doing so i hope to teach them that you are never too old to ask questions. if at least one of them actually listens to me, i will feel i've done my job. i am 55 yrs. old and i certainly don't know everything there is to know about being a good nurse. the difference between them and i is that i am still willing to listen.

years ago "nursing homes" or as they are now called snf's, ltc's.....they wouldn't have ever hired anyone newly graduated to that position:uhoh3:. in days of old, nurses got "promoted" based on merit, knowledge, excellence, and experience.......now however.......the job goes to the lowest bidder and cheapest to hire, and that my friends, makes me sad.:crying2:

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
In relation to the above professionals, I must be ancient in years being an RN for 43 yrs. I love working with the younger generation for I feel I am still learning or perfecting what I know in the modern technologies of today. I go with the flow and try to absorb all that I can from the young and the restless. They are invigorating and so much fun. I work in a comprehensive cardiac care unit where there is ongoing change and at a fast pace as well. We have all types of cardiac issues invasive and non invasive. The younger nurses grasp information quickly and we aid each other in manifesting our "combined knowledge". I have never had a nurse be rude or disrespectful to me young or old hinting that I should "move on" or quit. I have been on my unit for 20 years and always have someone ask my opinion on how to handle certain issues or what to do in an emergency. The "young" are always there for me if I need help and are so greatful and appreciative if I can show them a few "not in the books" tricks or techniques to complete tasks at hand. It's an honor to be when some of the young RNs are on with me and say "yeah" our CCC Mom is on so we will have a good night! I feel that I offer them a sense of "security" in a way and they offer me excitement and new learning. We compliment each other!

They are very blessed to have you!!! :redpinkhe

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Going on 20+ years in nursing and while on some days I hate where medical care is headed, I still love nursing.

No more requests for phone numbers....now I am a colleague. I will gladly trade the dates (happily married) for the respect I get from the surgeons and my peers.

When I reached 30 I felt like I finally knew something. At 40 others realized I did know what I was doing, and now it all seems to fall together more than it falls apart!

Here's a toast to all the nurses! Young and experienced. It is a damned fine profession made all the better by having us in it.

Here! Here! :cheers:

Specializes in NICU.

Can I ask what is wrong with calling people ma'am? I spent a couple of years in Georgia when I was growing up and it was expected of me to call anyone older than I was that.

Now in my mid-twenties, I still do that, and it's a sign of respect and deference...or at least it is from my point of view..?

Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU.
Can I ask what is wrong with calling people ma'am? I spent a couple of years in Georgia when I was growing up and it was expected of me to call anyone older than I was that.

Now in my mid-twenties, I still do that, and it's a sign of respect and deference...or at least it is from my point of view..?

In some regions of the US it is less common, and used only with someone *significantly* older than the speaker or when deliberately maintaining an aloof, socially-distant conversation.

I was around 34-35 the first time someone called me, "ma'am" ... and it led to a weekend spent examining my face for wrinkles, self-critiquing my hair & wardrobe, and pondering my new status ... :clown:

Specializes in Med-Surg/Peds/O.R./Legal/cardiology.
Can I ask what is wrong with calling people ma'am? I spent a couple of years in Georgia when I was growing up and it was expected of me to call anyone older than I was that.

Now in my mid-twenties, I still do that, and it's a sign of respect and deference...or at least it is from my point of view..?

I am from the South and have no problem at ALL with someone calling me "Ma'am." It's being called "Mama" from colleagues that I have a problem with.

Specializes in Family Practice Clinic.

I dont mind being called Ma'am, what I do mind is the condescending tone that is sometimes used. Sometimes by people who know better.

Specializes in L&D, CCU, ICU, PCU, RICU, PCICU, & LTC..
What really infuriates me is when the younguns call me "Mama"!!!!! The last one to call me that was told calmly but firmly, "I'm not your mother but if you ever choose to call me that again, I WILL get my switch." Word spread. Most of us can still work circles around these disrespectful snot noses.

I see nothing wrong with being called "ma'am" in respect, or even "Mama" in love and respect. Many of the CNA's in my last 2 jobs over 15 years (and a few nurses) called me 'mama'. It can be a title of endearment and respect, as in your own mother, acknowledging intelligence, experience, fairness, discipline, and caring all in one person. Your quote sound to me like you have no respect for them, so they give you none in return!

I have 5 children and 'Mama' is MUCH better than being called "Ohhh Muuuuuuuuuther!" or other names. :rolleyes:

It seems that the younger generation have little to no respect for themselves, much less for anyone else. It's really a shame too. I worked in a LTC facility in the south where manners used to be something they were very proud of. Now they are pretty much non-existent. Years ago, when my supervisor "requested" I do something for her I would practically run down anybody who got in my way. The last time I asked over the intercom for my CNA's to report to the nurses station I ended up having to go look for them because they never showed up. This was common practice at many of the facilities I've worked at over the years.

I did not demand respect from those I supervised, and from some I got none, but I did try to earn their respect. And I did earn it from most over time. One day (I usually worked 3-11) when I called 'all CNA's to the desk please" I was laughed at by the nurses and told none would come. The nurses were totally shocked when every one of their CNA's showed up for me. I told them it was because I do not call them for every little thing and I give them the same respect on the job that I want to receive. Most CNA's worked OT from 3-7pm or 3-11 and knew me from then.

To me it is much like the concerns sometimes expressed over "I am an RN ....ASN, DN, BSN, MSN, or whatever other hot shot titles" that seem more important than caring for and about others. With age I had to quit nursing due to physical and memory problems, but I am very proud of the career and names I have had since 1972.

Specializes in Med-Surg/Peds/O.R./Legal/cardiology.

jalyc, I'm sorry you had to give up the profession :(. Looks like we lost an outstanding nurse.