state laws re: cardiac telemetry monitoring
- 0Jun 30, '02 by brandy1017My hospital did away with telemetry monitoring techs recently and I'm concerned about patient safety and nurses legal liability when no one is watching the monitor. We are supposed to be checking it frequently, but in reality this is not so. We may be tied up in another patient's room. Sometimes people's rhythm changes ie to atrial fib and we do not know when it actually happened. I relayed my concerns to manager and even to the hospital risk manager, whose response was that perhaps I needed a job change. She stated the nursing literature proved that telemetry tech monitors were ineffective and unnecessary. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this and if they work in a state that requires an actual person, telemetry tech, watching the tele monitors.
- 1Jun 30, '02 by lever5I don't know that the states require tele monitor techs. I wonder if your nurse manager needs a job change? How many patients do you have and how many of them are monitored? I have worked on a unit with a 4 patient load and monitors above the bed and one in back of me. I felt safe with this ratio. How do you know whose alarms are ringing? How would you know whose leads are off? How many monitored patients are on the floor? The hospital will go down if there is a problem. I have worked on some 40 bed tele units and even 25 bed tele units. Every nurse would not be able to respond to every alarm. That is what it takes to ensure safety for the patients. With a low nurse to patient ratio, 4 patients, you are safe. More and something is going to happen. Research would be valid in a small unit, not in a large unit with the monitor at one end of the unit, and nurses assuming it is someone others alarms. I hope their policy has made it to print. This is what will protect you. If the nurse is following hospital policy and procedure, you will be ok. Find it in writting. I would not be happy working on a large unit without a tele monitor tech.Last edit by lever5 on Jun 30, '02
- 0Jun 30, '02 by FurballWhat is the sense of even having telemetry on a pt if there aren't a pair of eyes watching for rhythm changes or ears listening for alarms? Especially on a floor when a nurse can have an assignment of 5-7 pts? I remember a commercial that can be used as an analogy,where a security guard is so into his donut (patient?) that he doesn't see the burglars on the security monitors robbing the place blind.
- 1Jun 30, '02 by oramar GuideThe truth is that your hospitals has decided to cut staffing and they will find statistics to back them up because they want to. The reaction you got when you expressed concern it typical. "Perhaps you need a job change" is a disgraceful way of dealing with your concerns. I have worked at places where no continous monitoring of telemetry was done and things get missed. Sometimes the things that get missed have serious consequences for the patients. Managment does not care about that because they have someone to blame when it happens. YOU! Maybe the person who gave you that advice was right.
- 0Jun 30, '02 by indeedI'm working on a 40 bed tele unit without a monitor tech. But there are a few things that make up for not having one. One of them is that, aside from the main nurses' station and monitors, there are 4 other stations throughout the unit, 3 of them with a monitor (to keep it all in proximity). The fourth we are pushing to have a monitor put in after it became abundantly clear that we need one. Also, apparently when the unit I work on was smaller, they did have monitor techs...who are now our unit coordinators. It is a part of their job description to be able to read those monitors and keep an eye on who is off. As for knowing when your patient's rhythm changes...for stuff like A Fib (which many times will start out with a rate that is far too high) and the lethal ones, there is a LOUD IRRITATING alarm that goes off and since everyone on the unit can read those monitors, that stuff doesn't get missed. I think the only way it can work not having a monitor tech is making sure the other, non nurse, staff knows how to read them (we even have a few secretaries who took the dysrhythmia course) and having those monitors close enough that when you leave ANY patients room you will be able to see them. It seems to work well where I am at.
- 0Jul 10, '02 by puddlesrnOk what do you guys think about this.... I work in a 12 bed ICU that is rarely full. We range between 3-6 pts a day. In this unit we also have 20 telemetries that the nurses are also responsible for. We are usually staffed w/ 2-3 RNs no unit clerk no nurses aid no telemetry tech. The nurses do Q 4 hr assessments Q 1 hrs vs. Are there any other hospitals that require their ICU nurses be responsible for the floor telemetries plus manage their pts too????
- 0Nov 17, '10 by steelydanfanQuote from ceecel.deeIf there is no one to watch the monitors, then the safety factor of having monitors flies out the window. Your pt.s might as well be on the MS floor.No tech's watching our tele......we count on the alarms and our ward clerk, aids, or LPN's to chase us down if they do alarm!
The only saving grace is having in-room monitors, but it is not possible to catch everything if you have 4 pts. I had a hard time with 2 pt's and a tech in ICU for heaven's sake!
- 0Nov 17, '10 by blondy2061hI had never heard of telemetry techs before reading about them on this board. We have monitors on either end of the floor and in the patient rooms. The alarms are loud enough that they're easy heard from anywhere on the floor. There's usually someone at the nurses' station. If we need to see when a change occurred we go back in the monitor's memory and can review their rhythm for the whole time they've been monitored.