Sleeping during nightshift!! - page 4

This is not my first night shift position and I am shocked at how many people at this hospital sleep during their shift. I'm not talking about nodding off for a couple minutes either. They are... Read More

  1. by   clemmm78
    Quote from traumaRUs
    See, its not a matter of whether its refreshing or not, its WORK, not SLEEP. Therefore, when at WORK, one WORKS! And if its so okay to sleep at WORK, then why doesn't day shift do it? Answer....its not okay and is not sanctioned by managment.

    And...what happens if your patient codes during nap time? When I was a staff nurse, I just gave a quick report to the nurse watching my patients while I took my break. So...she/he didn't have a complete picture, just enough to get by for the time I was at lunch. However, if there is a problem, they come and get you.

    As to the folks with kids who must be up during the day - this isn't realistic. I worked nights when my kids were small, but used daycare when school wasn't in session or their father was at work. However, I know how exhausting this can be and I do sympathize. Maybe these folks could change to evening shift? Or...work prn?
    do nurses on day or evening shift every leave the premises during their break? Do they ever go outside for a cigarette or run to the nearest restauarant for a quick bite? If so, how is that any different than taking a quick nap ON YOUR OWN TIME?
  2. by   Cattitude
    Quote from traumarus
    i stand behind the premise that sleeping at work should not be allowed. i too went into nursing as a second career and in my other positions, never ever saw anyone sleep.

    "nevertheless, the randomized study that compared nappers with non-nappers working the night shift at a stanford hospital er was not all positive. the nappers did not exceed the nonnappers in all parameters, and during post-shift driving simulator tests even the nappers had catastrophic lapses in motor skills."

    this is from a study done at stanford: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psyc...d=breakingnews

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    but did you read the entire article? because i did and it did not appear negative towards napping overall.
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    [color=#483d8b]i c&p'd this "the authors wrote that they hope that by providing scientific data that support the benefit of napping, hospitals and other employers will consider policy changes that include nap breaks to help improve safety and performance. "

    except for the immediate few minutes after waking up, it seems that the majority of tasks performed were equal. the driving simulation in the a.m. was done poorly by both groups and also they felt people were relaxed knowing they were in a simulation anyway.
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    [color=#483d8b]the article was interesting, thank you. i took it as "middle of the road". :smilecoffeeilovecof they did take away caffeine though and we all know , noc shift needs that!!!
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  3. by   nurseangel47
    A communication to the state board of nursing in your state is in order as soon as possible. Not only is this grounds for dismissal, it is indeed grounds for being allowed to sleep the rest of their non-nursing career away at home! With no license to practice! What a bold and cheeky thing to try to pull. I'd have no qualms at all of calling or going online to report this to B.O.N. Good luck with it. It is so unfair, unprofessional, and sloppy, really criminal behavior, if you ask me. Someone could die or slip down the slippery slope while they're napping on the job. Makes me !
  4. by   jamonit
    Originally Posted by CASbeezgirlRN
    No pt's were ever left compromised or unattended.

    [S]how do you know? you were sleeping![/S]
  5. by   jamonit
    Quote from nurseangel47
    A communication to the state board of nursing in your state is in order as soon as possible. Not only is this grounds for dismissal, it is indeed grounds for being allowed to sleep the rest of their non-nursing career away at home! With no license to practice! What a bold and cheeky thing to try to pull. I'd have no qualms at all of calling or going online to report this to B.O.N. Good luck with it. It is so unfair, unprofessional, and sloppy, really criminal behavior, if you ask me. Someone could die or slip down the slippery slope while they're napping on the job. Makes me !

    pachooooowwwww! bam slam!
    :trout: :lol_hitti :redlight: :redlight: :smiley_ab :behindpc: :deadhorse :deadhorse


    HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
  6. by   Cattitude
    Quote from jamonit
    originally posted by casbeezgirlrn
    no pt's were ever left compromised or unattended.

    [s]how do you know? you were sleeping![/s]
    because, whenever we went on our unpaid break, we were required to give report to another nurse. this nurse then was responsible for pt's. upon return from break, that nurse updated us on status of pt's. if i ever had an unstable pt, i didn't take my break anyway. i was fortunate to work with a great team and we were very cohesive.
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    [color=#483d8b]in my experience as an agency nurse however, i didn't feel comfortable sleeping on break, i did see staff doing it though.
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    [color=#483d8b]everyone's entitled to their own opinion but as other's have already stated.. no one is going to tell me what i can or cannot do on my unpaid break. nope.. luckily, i do not work nights anymore but i fully support those that choose to take a quick nap on their break time..
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  7. by   jamonit
    Quote from casbeezgirlrn
    because, whenever we went on our unpaid break, we were required to give report to another nurse. this nurse then was responsible for pt's. upon return from break, that nurse updated us on status of pt's. if i ever had an unstable pt, i didn't take my break anyway. i was fortunate to work with a great team and we were very cohesive.
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    [color=#483d8b]in my experience as an agency nurse however, i didn't feel comfortable sleeping on break, i did see staff doing it though.
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    [color=#483d8b]everyone's entitled to their own opinion but as other's have already stated.. no one is going to tell me what i can or cannot do on my unpaid break. nope.. luckily, i do not work nights anymore but i fully support those that choose to take a quick nap on their break time..
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    hey, what ever works, ya know? i was just laughing at that brutal response by that lady saying she's going to call people's bon to tattle.

    anyway, i'm new to nursing, so my opinion isn't based on experience. just thought this was funny. :smiletea2:
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    If i'm needing a nap at work (which i wouldn't take), then perhaps i need more sleep at home.
  9. by   nurseangel47
    Jamonit: Wonder how funny YOU'D think it is when it's you or one of your relatives who suffer needlessly at the hands of a nurse who is off sleeping in his/her car during their break? I feel passionately about this issue and it is my right to vent on here like everyone else.
  10. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from LPN 90
    Honestly, I don't even know how you can take a 30 minute break and sleep during that time.. When you wake up, are you really going to be alert enough to have the where with all to do your job. It puts you at a disadvantage if you should need to use your critical thinking skills and you come up blank because you just woke up from a "little nappy" when you are suppose to have your mind on business. I just can't see it
    Try it one day. Take 30 minute nap when you are tired and another day take a two hour nap.

    See which one makes you feel better.
    I'll bet you feel better after the shorter nap than you did before.

    They don't call it power nap for nothing.
    Last edit by Lisa CCU RN on Feb 10, '07
  11. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from NurseyBaby'05
    Trauma-
    If you're not getting paid, you're not working. Not everyone wants to be a martyr and donate their free time to their job. What's the problem if people sleep on their breaks? What . . . that they're not getting paid do do it? Guess what, they're not getting paid at all for the unpaid lunch. People should not be obligated to be at the hospital's beck and call during their own time. If you worked in any other field and were told to come back and work unpaid during your lunch, would you? No. In any other field, they wouldn't even ask. Why are we nurses expected to sacrifice ourselves in the name of patient care?

    Now, on the other hand, people sleeping when they're on the job is unacceptable. At that point, they are responsible for their patients and are being paid to do thier jobs. People like that need to go.
    Exactly. umpiron:
  12. by   barbyann
    Lawyer for plantiff: And where were you when Mr. Jones coded?

    Nurse Sleepy: I was on my break.

    Lawyer: What did you do on your break?

    Nurse: I was sleeping.

    Lawyer: Why were you gone two hours?

    Nurse: My coworkers were supposed to wake me up but they were too busy in the code and they forgot.

    Lawyer: I rest my case.
  13. by   NRSKarenRN
    never permitted napping at work when predominately 8 hr shifts.......hhhummmmm....



    employers stance:
    you are at work. we are paying you to be available at all times during scheduled work shift in case of emergencies as we are mandated by health standards.
    part of being a professional is being fully prepared to work during scheduled time in facility.


    nurses and bon stance:

    nursing law does not specifically address sleeping on the job: bon views the violation is relation to patient negligence, safety, and/or abandonment.
    abandonment is viewed as leaving the patient without telling an appropriate person you are leaving and assuring that they agree to be responsible for the patient during your absence.


    if the nurse is provided "breaks" during work time then there should be an appropriate person assigned to be available to the patients during this time. during approved break time then unless the employer policy states the employee may not "nap" during the break it would not be considered negligence or abandonment by bon to sleep during this time, but viewed as employee issue ( employer stance: potential firing for not following facilities policies). if/when the nurse "sneaks" away and sleeps without such notification may result in board action if reported based on negligence related to providing patient care activities.


    north carolina bon takes strong stand with several nurses yearly loosing their license over issue. disciplinary actions pending ratification january 2007



    previous discussions:

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    12n sleeping during break

    sleeping on duty is technically not a violation of the npa. however, if a nurse is sleeping she is neglecting the patient's in her care. so the violation is negligence. if a nurse is on break and has reported and someone accepted the responsibility of watching that nurse's patients then the nurse is not negligent. it may be against the facility policy for a nurse to sleep at any time while on duty and if this is the case it would be an employment issue.
    http://allnurses.com/forums/1333592-post81.html



    sleeping on the job..acceptable or not?

    smoke break vs catching 20 winks

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