Should I take a job with more opportunity but an unprofessional manager? - page 2

Recently, I was recruited by a former director to move to a different hospital where I could gain valuable experience as a charge nurse and prepare myself for nursing administration (possibly house... Read More

  1. by   Rnandsoccermom
    Sounds like the director is desperate to get good employees but won't if they keep all of the bad seeds. Agency use is dicey at best, there's a 50-50 chance they'll even show up for a scheduled shift. 90% agency is scary!
  2. by   EmerNurse
    AVOID any place that says "if you only stick it out....". There IS NO if only. If you have a lousy manager, you won't have a team work staff, you won't have people who listen to your concerns, and you generally end up with a "if you don't like it, leave" attitude. Why on earth would you want to put yourself through that kind of hades?

    If you're in a good place now - stick THAT out - and the promotions and experience will come to you as a matter of course.

    Any place that is up front enough to give you a list of their "challenges" (which translates into, you'll be screwed but hey come on anyway!), is trying to push your challenge button, as in "I just KNOW that *I'll* be the one to make a difference. It's a play to your ego.

    Skip it. Nursing is hard enough on the greatest floor. If you are on a great sloop, don't change boats to keep the titanic afloat. The iceburgs are bigger than you are.
  3. by   XYnurse2B
    Seems like you've received an overwhelmingly lopsided answer. Good luck with your decision, if you haven't already made it.
  4. by   classicdame
    she and others with her attitude are the reason they have staffing issues. You would not want the reputation of having worked there.
  5. by   Freedom42
    Regardless of what you decide, I hope you tell the director who's tried to recruit you -- and obviously trusts you, since she spoke confidentially -- just what the "manager" said during your interview. She should know that potential recruits are being confronted by foul language, rude comments and intentional infliction of moral beliefs. Your director will have anever be able to hire good candidates as long as this "manager" is doing the talking.
  6. by   Freedom42
    Regardless of what you decide, I hope you tell the director who's tried to recruit you -- and obviously trusts you, since she spoke confidentially -- just what the "manager" said during your interview. She should know that potential recruits are being confronted by foul language, rude comments and intentional infliction of moral beliefs. Your director will have a very tough time hiring good candidates as long as this "manager" is doing the talking.
  7. by   mim-o
    Hey,
    The pasture is very rarely, if ever, greener on the other side. I would NOT leave It might take more time to reach your goals there, but as time progresses, at your current job, and you work your way up-you will be well trained for your dream position. Even if you do get your dream job quick at the house of horrors hospital, who is going to train you? Are they going to show you the way to correct way to do things? How would anybody have time even if they cared enough to properly train you? What about those bad seeds-they are just going to love you coming in new and being advanced right over there heads, not to mention the jeopardy you are putting your liscense in due to the staffing situation. Stay, and if it is meant to be the right oppurtunity for you will come along to advance.
  8. by   NurseRotten
    Things are looking up already. I called my manager with a hypothetical, "what if I go PRN for the summer, could I come back?" And of course, she wanted to know why I was asking. I told her that someone was trying to recruit me away by offering me a charge position. She was actually horrified to hear that I was considering going to the said hospital. (I did not have to tell her my plan. She had a good idea since the director who is trying to recruit me came from the same hospital where I currently work). It turns out that I just might have a charge position at the hospital I love!!! Funny how things work out. I'll keep you guys posted.

    Next on the agenda is asking for more money. My DH thinks I should tell them the huge salary increase I was offered, but I am so grateful just to have the opportunity at the place I love, I don't even care about the money.

    (Well, that's not exactly true... My stomach turns when I think about that $5K sign-on bonus that I was going to use to take my little ones to Disney.)
  9. by   NurseRotten
    Quote from mim-o
    Hey,
    What about those bad seeds-they are just going to love you coming in new and being advanced right over there heads, not to mention the jeopardy you are putting your liscense in due to the staffing situation.
    To further complicate things, most of the nurses are not only agency, but LVN/LPNs. Which means that I will have to do all the admissions, review assessments, and sign-off on notes everytime a patient has a change. That could become overwhelming. I value my license. I worked hard for it. I would be devastated if something happened due to incompetence under my charge.

    As I think more and more about it, I keep coming up with more reasons not to go.

    It just felt good to be valued and wanted. I guess she did play to my ego like someone said in an earlier post.
  10. by   NurseRotten
    Quote from EmerNurse
    AVOID any place that says "if you only stick it out....". There IS NO if only. If you have a lousy manager, you won't have a team work staff, you won't have people who listen to your concerns, and you generally end up with a "if you don't like it, leave" attitude. Why on earth would you want to put yourself through that kind of hades?
    I think you hit the nail on the head!!!!!!!!

    The manager that I interviewed with actually used the exact words, "If you don't like it, leave" when she was talking about her staff and cursing.

    Frightening, now that I think about it in that context.

    Thank you for your comments!!!!!!
  11. by   XYnurse2B
    Congratulations on the new potential position! Good things do come to those who wait!And as far as the $, I think push the issue. The worst thing that could happen is they say no, right?

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