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- by SandraDeeRN Jan 13, '07I work for a hospital in pittsburgh. There are a lot of them and we're called univeristy of pittsburgh medical center (UPMC) for those who aren't familiar. One of the hospitals recently made it mandatory to have your BSN to work there and if you have your ASN diploma etc you have to get your BSN in two years to keep your job. It's supposed to spread throughout UPMC eventually. I have my ASN but will be attending the University of Pittsburgh for my RN to MSN. Just wanted to know what everyone else thought about this. I know in Pennsylvania there is always talk of getting rid of the ASN and diploma programs which I think is a horrible idea. What are your thoughts?
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- Jan 13, '07 by TweetyI don't see the point. I'm sure there are some very good ADN nurses there who have been there for many years, and getting a BSN isn't going to make them better nurses.
But if the market can support this and they won't be short of nurses, then they have that option. More than like they will fail and it will either blow up in their face and they face a mass exodus and/or staff shortages because the community can't fill the positions, or they will drop the idea all together.
Nurses who work there also have options....vote with their feet or play their game.
- Jan 13, '07 by Teacher2bCRNAi don't think it should be a requirement if the job essentials are the same as well as the pay.
Quote from sandradeerni work for a hospital in pittsburgh. there are a lot of them and we're called univeristy of pittsburgh medical center (upmc) for those who aren't familiar. one of the hospitals recently made it mandatory to have your bsn to work there and if you have your asn diploma etc you have to get your bsn in two years to keep your job. it's supposed to spread throughout upmc eventually. i have my asn but will be attending the university of pittsburgh for my rn to msn. just wanted to know what everyone else thought about this. i know in pennsylvania there is always talk of getting rid of the asn and diploma programs which i think is a horrible idea. what are your thoughts?
- Jan 13, '07 by Marie_LPN, RN
- Jan 13, '07 by SmilingBluEyesI would much more swallow this if THEY were the ones to ante up and pay for people to go back to school! (all employees who need BSN that is, including PRN ones).
- Jan 13, '07 by caroladybelleWell when all of the ADN/ASN/Diploma nurses quit, so that they can have enough time to get their BSN in two years or less, then the facility will be a pickle, won't they.
Given the working conditions in Pittsburgh, I have a feeling that the facility would really be in trouble.
- Jan 13, '07 by mercyteapotTwo years doesn't seem like enough time, at all.
Isn't Shadyside part of the UPMC system? Are they actually going to not hire nurses who graduate from a nursing school affiliated with their own system? That's messed up!
- Jan 13, '07 by danh3190I've been wondering if the nursing shortage in Pittsburgh is about over. There are a lot of nursing schools in the Pgh area and they seem to be graduating about 2-3 times the number of grads as they were 3 years ago. The fact that one UPMC hospital is willing to reject diploma and ADN RNs just confirms my suspicion.
This might make it rough for me in that I'm in a two year RN diploma program with a loan forgiveness program if I work for UPMC. If UPMC isn't willing to hire us I guess we'll be stuck for the $15,000.
- Jan 14, '07 by RN 4 LifeI dont think there is any thing wrong with encouraging nurses to increase there level of education as long as the institutions that initiate these provisions accommodate those in which it effects. By this I mean, increase staffing to account for those nurses who will be in school instead of working and pay for the cost of the additional education. Other accommodations may be necessary to decrease the challenges that may arise by initiating a rule that states all nurses must be BSN prepared.