She got fired... - Page 8

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  1. May 24, '12 by
    And where did the suture material come from? You can't just obtain suture material...not even in the er, especially not of the special sort required for this procedure. A zero silk maybe from a chest tube tray....but this? No way in heck!
  2. May 24, '12 by
    Quote from canesdukegirl
    Sorry, OP...I think you got suckered into believing a story that simply isn't true. There is NO WAY this nurse could have sutured a vein. She would be required to have loupes to see what she was suturing, she would have to have a frazier suction tip to suction out the blood that was in the way of this tiny little needle being passed on a tiny little suture (think 7-0 or 8-0 Prolene on a double armed needle). She would have required a sterile instrument basket containing Castro needle holders, fine metz and iris scissors. Furthermore, she would have had to either wear a headlight or have a mobile OR light in order to see what she was suturing. She would also have to have a vein retractor in order to isolate the vein, would have had to dissect out all of the tissue surrounding the vein and would have had to then close the skin. It just isn't believable. At all.
    Yeah! What she said!
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  3. May 24, '12 by
    Personally think we've all (those who responed to the OP) have been had. *LOL*

    Standard retort of never having felt so cheap and used in one's life cannot apply here as it was rather small beer!
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  4. May 24, '12 by
    Quote from Horseshoe
    Yeah! What she said!
  5. May 24, '12 by
    The most important fact is that bleeding from a VEIN, a VEIN is not life threatening. This post is bull. Just think about is people. Go back to the initial post. No one dies from a vein bleed.
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    May 25, '12 by
    The only vein I could imagine someone "bleeding out" from would be the jugular...and no way in hell would I be suturing up that bad boy! Definitely a good debate for ethics class though...
  7. May 25, '12 by
    Seriously, I hope she didn't really try and suture someone's vein. I am trained and qualified to suture and did it frequently in my old job (as a licensed midwife). However, now that I am practicing as an RN it is not in my scope, and even if it was I would have no idea how to safely put together a ruptured vessel that is bleeding out. *****!
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    May 25, '12 by
    Ethics class----Would you save a life if it meant getting fired? Would you go beyond your scope to save a life?
    In the real world we have teams of people who come when a rapid response or code is called, and really, not within one's scope is one thing, but a suture set at the bedside???? Highly unlikely.

    Perhaps the hospitalist was in the call room with the door locked and ignoring his page and you had to get the maitenence man......ooops wrong thread
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  9. May 25, '12 by
    A little off-topic, but since the original topic was BS anyway...

    Why can't you bleed out from a vein? I've seen a femoral vein quinton cath site bleed excessively. That's where angios start, too. The femoral vein branches off immediately from the distal inferior vena cava.
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    May 25, '12 by
    Quote from dudette10
    A little off-topic, but since the original topic was BS anyway...Why can't you bleed out from a vein? I've seen a femoral vein quinton cath site bleed excessively. That's where angios start, too. The femoral vein branches off immediately from the distal inferior vena cava.
    I think you could bleed out if but it would be over a much longer span of time, just because it does not have the force of pressure behind it.

    Or am I wrong and it couldn't happen at all?