shaving cream to clean dirty butts?? - page 4
Does anyone out there still use shaving cream to clean peri areas of stool, or to refresh smelly feet? A hospital around here has been using it for years (it works great) but doesn't know where this... Read More
Dec 26, '05Where I work we have a foam specially formulated for cleaning skin of bm/urine.
It's called Carrafoam. It looks like shaving cream, is in a can and comes out simliar to shaving cream.
But it is specially formulated for the job.
There are links for places to buy it all over the net, if anyone should want their facility to try it.
I think a salesman came to our place and we keep it on hand all the time now.
Dec 26, '05I became a CNA in May of 2004 and have worked for one nursing home since. During a conversation with my DON I mentioned that I saw one of the other experienced CNAs using shaving creame to provide peri-care. (I did not know this was against company policy)
She immediately flew off the handle and told me that if I ever saw it happening again to report it and if she caught anyone doing the same, they would be terminated on the spot. According to her, shaving cream is horrible to use on bottoms in long-term care and it breaks down the skin slowly. Also, (this is repulsive) I have seen a CNA apply the ALCOHOL GEL to the anus of a person who would not stop having a BM, just so she wouldn't have to keep cleaning them up. I think THAT should be grounds for immediate termination/losing certification. IMHO
Dec 26, '05I have found shaving cream good at cutting the cr** on many bummies, but you still have to do a regular wash in addition. I like the baby oil gel for barrier on normal bums. Then things slip off easily....
Sort of nip it in the bud....or butt?
My heavens! this is a tacky post!
Dec 26, '05Quote from truesnA couple of weeks ago our DON posted this note at the nurse's station: "Do NOT leave shaving cream out where it can be seen." Curious, I asked another nurse what was so bad about shaving cream being left out. She proceeded to tell me that often the CNAs use it to clean BM off butts, but that it is against (state?) regulations. Now, this brings up a whole 'nuther can of worms about why it's okay to use as long as no one knows you use it. Hmmm.The Queen of Clean says that shaving cream is just whipped soap. It also contains moisturizers and sometimes aloe. Heck, I'd try it
Anyway, while helping clean up a resident last night I happened to see a can of shaving cream on a bedside table and decided to read the ingredients. It was Colgate in a orange bottle. It has PROPANE and all kinds of other icky sounding stuff. I then checked out my DHs Colgate for SENSITIVE SKIN this morning, and it also has propane AND butane!!
Doesn't sound like anything I'd want used on MY butt. And I don't know of any soap with propane or butane in it.
Dec 26, '05The other night I got an idea. I heard someone mention that they don't like using Desitin Creamy on their child because it just slides off, unlike regular Desitin. What do ya think? Would Desitin Creamy be a good alternative?
Dec 26, '05:Santa2: Looks like this santa has been playing with the shaving cream::wink2:
Anyways. . .Many years ago, when I was training in the unit by a very "seasoned" nurse, she taught me to use the shaving cream for the really messy, sticky, smelly, clean ups. Never knew the reason WHY but it really works great! If you follow with soap/water/drying, you do not get skin break down. Patients feel clean and fresh and the smell is controlled.
Dec 27, '05Well, I really don't know about ligering smells b/c I work part evenings and nights a 12 hour shift 6p-6a. Since I don't work days or evening while the patients are up, I don't know. When I change my incontinent one's in bed is first wipe the BMwith an unsoiled part of the diaper, then with the draw pad, and the the sheet (if they put an extra one under the draw pad), then I wipe with water and a cloth. Not a warm cloth mind you (not by choice. Is it just me or does every one have to deal the water that takes 20 minutes to warm up?
Sometime some of then will have their person Peri-Care spray that claims it is all you need to clean (yeah right!), I use it for the refreshing smell. But anyway since I am in and out, I not around long enough for the smell to last. But the shaving cream thing is new to me. Nice to know I guess. Oh yea, we use Sealant on those with heavy irritation.
Dec 31, '05OK, very interesting conversation--- only nurses are so concerned with poo and hairy butts.... Now this is slightly off subject; but once the butts are clean, why not put some more shaving cream on there and actually shave it? I have done this with long term pts who are demented or unconscious. It does make clean up the next time much easier. All my coworkers have appreciated it AND I think it is cleaner for the patient.... As stated earlier be sure to use shaving creme without alcohol OR menthol..... dan
Dec 31, '05Only on rare occasions do we shave. Nothing worse than razor rash around the peri rectal area.
Dec 31, '05but once the butts are clean, why not put some more shaving cream on there and actually shave it? I have done this with long term pts who are demented or unconscious. It does make clean up the next time much easier.
Not to mention getting CUT down there???
If it's a doctor's order for the sake of health purposes, that's one thing. But till i run across such...
Dec 31, '05Michelle, you're so right about razor rash.... we don't make them ready for a bikini , just a quick once over...dan
Dec 31, '05could this be the beginning of a debate between the hairless hindend hygiene advocates and the rear razor rash alarmist?