Sexism in Nursing (a male point of view) - page 16
As a male in nursing, I feel that I am sometimes treated differently because of my gender. I believe that I am expected to carry a heavier patient load with less assistance from my female coworkers.... Read More
Nov 22, '02Originally posted by kmchugh
I have to respectfully disagree here, nurs4kids. You see, if nursing school is the gateway to nursing, then nursing instructors are the gate keepers of the profession. Hence, whatever "isms" (racism, sexism, etc) exist in nursing are often reflected in the nursing instructors we all run into. The problem is often being able to separate an "ism" that is a societal problem from an "ism" that is a problem specific to nursing. In your example, racism is a society wide problem. On the other hand, ANTI MALE sexism seems to be more of a problem specific to female dominated professions (just as anti-female sexism is a problem in male dominated professions). What I was exposed to was not prejudice based on my gender in general. It was gender based prejudice only insofar as a member of that gender trying to break into the "girls club."
There are other examples, such as the fine post provided by ERN, or the example I gave earlier. Remember? My co-workers with bad backs could beg off from helping with physical activity without much being said. But, if I tried to do so owing to an injury that left me a disabled vet, I was a wimp.
Now, all that said, allow me one more observation. The female nurses who have an anti-male nurse bias are an extreme minority. So, is anti-male bias a problem in nursing? Well, yes in as much as any gender bias is a problem. Is it the most pressing problem in nursing? Is it even a really big problem in nursing? Not by a long shot.
You're right in reference to a nursing problem and this IS what this thread is about. What I was trying to show, probably wrongfully, is that all of us go through some type "ism" in nursing. Doesn't make one more right than another. I think the whole underlying problem is with the attitudes of nursing instructor's in general, not just a gender bias. I do not deny that male student's have a harder time in school, I even talked about this in another post. I have a good friend in NP school, right now. Three months prior to graduation, he was "advised" to change his major.."he wasn't cut out for this program", although he's maintained a 3.6gpa. As he and I discussed this, I advised him to bite his tongue for the next three months...grin and bear it. I think one problem comes from the fact that men are more outspoken and nursing instructor's are used to being in total control. Again, the instructor's are wrong, but I still think this is one cause of the conflict. My friend is very outspoken and had spoken one time too many.
However, ANY "ism" in nursing school is wrong, whether it's a society "ism" or not. It hurts the person who is being singled out, whether it's because you're male, white, black, etc. Unfortunately, I feel there is only one way to change the problems of male nurses. An increased in the percentage of male nurses will smother the preconceived notions that hurt ya'll.
I apologize if my post looked as if I intended to lessen the focus of your problems in nursing school. I only wanted to show that white males are not the only one's who are picked on in nursing school. Just imagine how the black males are treated...??
Again, Kev..thanks for a nondefensive debate. I always appreciate your posts!
Nov 22, '02Originally posted by LilgirlRN
Good to see a post from you nurs4kids
sorry, didn't overlook the above, just forgot to respond. Thanks! It's great to see you as well! I've missed you! Ready for tomorrow's "state holiday"??
Dec 8, '02I admit i sometimes wonder what a wonderfull thing would be to have more male nurses where i work, to help me with the dependent patients. But I do Know this kind of wishing is unfair and i do the job just as well without them. Me and my female companions.
Besides... i feel males aren't important just for the lifting. In fact, that's just a small aspect of their importance. Their most usefull just by talking to male patients, and just by making them feel better (as you know, some man prefer to talk about certain aspects with other man). And even the female patients like to talk to male nurses. You can see it in their eyes. Also, working in an all female environment can be very boring. A male can be very refreshing, even if he's speaking about sports or something like that.
Male nurses are important and should be more. That's a fact.
Well, just to finish, at the present moment there is only one male nurse working in my unit. And he's not at all constantly requested to help with the heavy loads (mainly because we're used to manage by ourselves). In fact, he's very relaxed about is work (though not incompetent), but he's excused because working with him is funny, the working hours pass faster and all the patients adore him.
Male nurses have my vote.