Setting a bad example? - page 6
I am curious about what people think about working nurses who are extremely out of shape, obese, smokers, etc. I work in a CVICU where a good portion of the nurses are overweight and out of shape,... Read More
Dec 31, '011) We are all human.
2) we as nurses should try to be none judgemental.
3)It is our job to give patients information to empower them in making health decisions.
4) People have rights.
Matt, what on earth do you expect?
As for women talking about breast feeding, Im sure some people are more comfortable talking to someone of the same sex about certain subjects. As nurses we talk about a huge range of very personal/ icky issues and sometimes forget that this is not the norm.Its not just that a patient doesnt respect/ trust your knowledge.
I think there are too many issues involved here( culture, backgrounds, experiences, intelligence, sex, age, status etc), you cant have a perfect world. If you did then you wouldnt need many nurses , would you?
Dec 31, '01It's not so much about wanting a perfect world, but more so about what that husband said:
YOU AIN'T NO TWIGGY YOURSELF
I'm curious on the views that Matt's opponents hold on this statement - and this perception that America holds of images.
Dec 31, '01Exactly what I am talking about Matt! And do you think you could not have been as good as a female OB nurse? Do you buy that even for a second? Probably not, because you know image is important, but it isn't everything. Most of us don't have any of the diseases our patients have yet we are considered qualified to teach diabetics how to monitor their blood sugar and asthmatics how to take inhalers, etc. We DON'T have to live through everything we teach. Why does a perfect diet have to be the exception?
I think nurses should be working on making image less important, not enforcing the idea that it's more important than it really is. I don't believe that patients should even have the right to refuse a male nurse or a fat nurse anymore than they should be able to refuse to have a black nurse or a hispianic one. We are too obsessive about image.
Dec 31, '01What about the nurse who's bad habits do not show on the outside? What about the drug addictive nurse, or the alcoholic nurse? Would you want him/her taking care of you? Food is addicting/comfort to some people under alot of stress, yet alot of times people are looked down at because of their weight. They eat for reasons other than being just hungry. They know full well that they are over weight and should lose the excess baggage, but they need more than to just go on a diet. Losing the wt isn't the problem, keeping it off is. It's not an easy road to travel, more like the Ho-chee-min trail! (don't even try to make me spell that one!) We can survive without alcohol or illegal drugs, but we cannot survive without food. We do need to make changes in our behavior/eating habits, but sometimes change is difficult if you're not used to the new changes. There will be slip-ups and let downs, but one must keep struggling to achieve a goal and then to maintain it as well. You skinnies don't know how lucky you have it and the fatties only wish they could be like you without the struggle. But please don't judge the fatties for what they look like for most of them are crying on the inside and yet they have a heart of gold...just my lil ol humble opinion...
Dec 31, '01Originally posted by mcl4
At six hours, how much teaching, if any, can be done.
Dec 31, '01I still maintain that if we desire our patients to eat a healthy diet, we need to serve them healthy food in the hospital. Show by example WHAT comprises a healthy diet. I think that tasty, nutritious food will win them over better than the nurses lecturing to eat whole grains and veges, then serving mac and cheese with jello.
Jan 1, '02RN Kitty-
I agree, actually. The garbage that comes our way from the cafeteria is pretty pathetic - but at least it's not junk food, I guess.
Could be worse.
Like when the cafeteria would close for third shift (gee, I guess no babies are born on third shift, thus no mom's need to eat. Oh, I guess teaching isn't done then either)
and for food for the nurses the cafeteria would leave out big vats of old food, uncovered, unrefridgerated, etc. We would pick from those room-temp scraps and hope we wouldn't get food poisoning.
Jan 1, '02Not junk food? You haven't seen our hospital!
One night they actually sent up a deep fat fried fish sandwich on a pure white bun, with a white dinner roll, and 3/4 of a cup of boiled peas. I'm not kidding - I measured. The salads are full of nitrates to preserve them, the fruit comes IN the jello. Coffee - not decaf - in the PM for a nursing mom.
Jan 1, '02One hospital I worked at actually had a McDonald's IN the hospital!!!! I kid you not - Valley Medical Center in Renton, WA.
Jan 1, '02RN Kitty
I agree about hospitals setting examples with patient meals. We have a McDonalds in our hospital,too, so if the patient doesn't like what theyre served, they often send a family member down to get them something from McDonalds, (assuming they're allowed to eat). I also feel the same about the dairy based tube feeding liquids,, wouldn't it be healthier to send puree'd real food down those feeding tubes?? Just my opinion, and I know I'm getting off the topic here.
Jan 2, '02Interesting points above. I wonder, though, if it's so important to model proper eating in the cafeteria, why isn't it appropriate to ask about modeling proper eating habits with our own physical fitness?
(Not that RNKitty and VAC have been disagreeing with me, but it's a good point.)
Jan 2, '02If a nurses personal habits do not affect her care, why should it be anyone elses business what she does. If perfection is to be a job requirement I know that my ER would have no staff, at least half of our ER doctors are smokers as well.