RN bashing - page 6

I don't know about the rest of you RNs, but I'm sick of seeing all the posts where we are being bashed by those who aren't one. When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to... Read More

  1. by   Rhoresmith
    edited because well just because
  2. by   Angela Mac
    FNP2B- stop the insanity....you are overly confident......Please share with your mother, or better yet, your nursing instructors- your input on the CNAs, LPNs, & other students that you have been bashing on this thread.....like I said......you have alot yet to learn.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jun 18, '04 : Reason: TOS violation
  3. by   NRSKarenRN
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  4. by   NRSKarenRN
    Quote from traumarus
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  5. by   Rhoresmith
    Anyone who works in the healthcare industry deserves a pat on the back, it is a messy, smelly, physically and mentally exhausting job and anyone who stay in it deserves angels wings CNA's, CMT's,LPN's ADN's BSN's RT's PT's, NP, all those in Surgery and even the Ward clerks who put up with all the crap of doctors and patients and families. We deserve respect but we have to respect each other first
    Last edit by Rhoresmith on Jun 18, '04
  6. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from fnp2b
    i also believe that everyone is important, but i believe in levels of importance. the lpn that just changed the sheets for a patient is not as important (notice i said not as..they are still important) as the md that has to go into the family room to tell the family that the patient that the lpn has just changed the sheets for has just been diagnosed with malignant cancer.
    it also falls into the level of responsibility. i have said this before and i will say it again. rn's are not paid considerably more than lpn's because society has it out for lpn's. it is simply due to the fact that rn's have a greater level of education than lpn's and they have a greater level of responsibility than lpn's, so in reflection they are of greater importance...(not saying that lpn's are not important because they are and if you want to be technical so are the cafeteria personnel) every one in a hospitial is important. from the janitor to the ceo of the hospital, there are just different levels of importance.

    "its never to let to be what you might have been"
    "different levels of importance".....hmmmm. the way i see it, is that one's credentials will dictate one's salary whereas one's valor, integrity and honor will dictate one's worth. now understandably, one might consider that philosophical. but on the flip side, a greater level of responsibility would be reflected in a salary but not in importance. that is pretentious and short-sighted. and i think those people that are not secure in themselves will staunchly persevere in their plight to admonish those that have lesser education, less money, thus less prestige (???)- not.
  7. by   Destinystar
    i worked my way up from cna, lvn, adn, bsn all in ltc. just give some of these people a little bit of power and they can be very nasty. when it comes to being nasty to cna's some rn's & lvn's run neck and neck & some cna's wrote the book on rudeness. however, out of the entire nursing staff rn's have no excuse for treating lvn's or cna's in an unprofessional manner. that is because through their licensure they are supervisors who are accountable not only for their actions but for the actions of lvn's and cna's. an rn never looks so big as when she/he is stooping down to help a cna. respect is not a right it is earned. i hope no one here is trying to imply that just because rn's have more education that they are above being criticized by the cna's. i thank godfor this forum because we can all come here and safely speak from our hearts. i enjoy the hell out of what the cna's write on this site because it gives me a different perspective. if any cna's or lvn's (or rn's for that matter) want to bash rn's you can pm me and i'll probably agree with you and get a good laugh.
  8. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Fortunately, like Cinderella, the shoe does not fit me. Nice lecture, however. Sorry to hear your experiences w/RN's are so bad.
  9. by   leslie :-D
    i just wish people would realize those that bash or belittle others, is a reflection of THEIR OWN inadequacies and their titles are what they hide behind.
  10. by   Energizer Bunny
    Quote from destinystar
    i worked my way up from cna, lvn, adn, bsn all in ltc. just give some of these people a little bit of power and they can be very nasty. when it comes to being nasty to cna's some rn's & lvn's run neck and neck & some cna's wrote the book on rudeness. however, out of the entire nursing staff rn's have no excuse for treating lvn's or cna's in an unprofessional manner. that is because through their licensure they are supervisors who are accountable not only for their actions but for the actions of lvn's and cna's. an rn never looks so big as when she/he is stooping down to help a cna. respect is not a right it is earned. i hope no one here is trying to imply that just because rn's have more education that they are above being criticized by the cna's. i thank godfor this forum because we can all come here and safely speak from our hearts. i enjoy the hell out of what the cna's write on this site because it gives me a different perspective. if any cna's or lvn's (or rn's for that matter) want to bash rn's you can pm me and i'll probably agree with you and get a good laugh.
    everyone can be nasty to everyone else. the letters behind their name make no difference. it's their attitude and general feeling toward other humans that makes them the way they are, not their credentials!
  11. by   SCRN1
    That is so true!
    Quote from CNM2B
    Everyone can be nasty to everyone else. The letters behind their name make no difference. It's their attitude and general feeling toward other humans that makes them the way they are, not their credentials!
  12. by   Marty LPN
    Quote from SCRN1
    I don't know about the rest of you RNs, but I'm sick of seeing all the posts where we are being bashed by those who aren't one. When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to communicate with other nurses by sharing things about their work, asking each other's opinions on things, etc.

    What I keep seeing more and more of is a CNA or LPN complaining about how registered nurses are so bad in how they treat them. True, there are some registered nurses who may have a thing against them. But, most seem to appreciate all the help they receive from them and those who come here are constantly trying to tell them that.

    Why can't we all just get along and do our jobs in which we were hired?
    I have been an LPN for 21 years. I have worked in many different areas over the years, mostly in acute care settings. I find that for the most part RN's and LPN's work together to provide a good quality of care. Please don't let these individauls anger you. More than likely, they have been made to feel this way by their place of employment, and more than likely their states board of nursing. As nurses, we have noone but ourselves to blame for the aminosity that is out there between the RN and the LPN. Most professional nursing organizatios do not recognize LPN's as nurses. As nurses we have allowed these bueracratic individuals to continue to build a wall between us. We are all nurses, (as the word nurse appears in both titles). I am very proud to be an LPN and am very comfortable with my skills. I aknowledge the educational and the legal differences between both classifications of nurses. However the LPN was created to ease the shortage of RN's during the war effort, and again we find ourselves in a nursing shortage, this time on a much larger scale. The only way we can continue to make sure that our patients continue to receive the best possible care, is to work together. The states could help, by expanding the role of the LPN who works at the bedside. Make competancy verfication for advanced skills mandatory for licensure renewal. Most providances in Canada do this. The LPN role encompasses more acute tasks, including the administration of IV push medications, yet they still work under the direction of a RN/MD. So lets stop building a wall between ourselves, and try to institute changes that are benefical to us as "nurses" and to those who we devote ourselves to care for..."our patients"
  13. by   FNP2B
    "its never to late to be what you might have been"

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