Removing needle from syringe - page 5

Hello everyone: I'm a Nursing Student and was wondering if anyone had a needle stick after being exposed to a known HIV+ patient. What are the chances of one being infected after such exposure. I... Read More

  1. by   GM1987
    Quote from TazziRN
    GM, we're not talking about a responsible adult, we're talking about a normal response, which would have been to immediately try to determine what the sharp object was. If that didn't happen for whatever reason, the next normal response would have been to let the clinic staff know, if not immediately then when the fears started to set in. To panic and only contact a friend who happens to be a nursing student, rather than a physician or HIV/AIDS clinic, makes absolutely no sense.
    I completely agree with you.
    Well, I guess he was shocked/anxious/denying the whole incident and when the fears settled in, he didn't want to accept any of it.
    He'll test at the end of this month so hopefully he is negative.
  2. by   Cattitude
    Quote from GM1987
    I completely agree with you.
    Well, I guess he was shocked/anxious/denying the whole incident and when the fears settled in, he didn't want to accept any of it.
    He'll test at the end of this month so hopefully he is negative.
    I think your friend really blew this whole incident out of proportion. Did he even have a cut or any kind of skin break on his hand at all? Any blood?

    I'm sure he's fine. I've had a needlestick to an unknown risk and an eyesplash with body fluid to a known HIV + pt. and I'm fine.

    Tell your buddy to calm down, there's enough KNOWN things in the world to get excited over ...LOL
  3. by   TazziRN
    He's freaked out that he's been exposed to HIV and he's waiting until the end of the month to test??????


    That's it, I'm done here.
  4. by   GM1987
    I know it's not a conclusive result but it's a VERY good indication of what his result will be at the 13 week mark.
    CDC has been conservative throughout - they've dropped their 6 month window period down to 3 months but most antibody tests nowadays detect HIV within 6 weeks as 90%+ seroconvert within 22+ days and only a few will wait until 6 months (but those are usually people with depleted immune systems, undergoing chemo., or are extensive IV drug abusers).
    You have to understand that this is not a MEDICAL situation and perhaps that is why he didn't follow protocol and will not test all the way through 12 months. I know there have been three cases of late seroconversion in nurses past the 6 month mark who were both co-infected with HCV and HIV - but that is very rare.

    He may be blowing this out of the proportion but I have sympathy for him. Why else does someone stick a sharp behind a door handle?
  5. by   Altra
    Quote from GM1987
    He may be blowing this out of the proportion but I have sympathy for him. Why else does someone stick a sharp behind a door handle?
    Why does someone get stuck by anything on a door handle to a public building (the alleged dirty needle, or just the splinter from hell ...) and not go up to the front desk of this public building and say, "hey - there's something on the door."

    I sooo was not going to come back to this ...
  6. by   GM1987
    ...hah, because they're unsure and maybe think the rest of the world will think of them as a crazy individual? Good point nevertheless.
  7. by   tvccrn
    Quote from GM1987
    You have to understand that this is not a MEDICAL situation and perhaps that is why he didn't follow protocol and will not test all the way through 12 months. I know there have been three cases of late seroconversion in nurses past the 6 month mark who were both co-infected with HCV and HIV - but that is very rare.

    He may be blowing this out of the proportion but I have sympathy for him. Why else does someone stick a sharp behind a door handle?
    I don't see how it's not a medical situation. It happened in a clinic and it involves HIV. Hello, that IS MOST DEFINITELY a medical situation.

    You know, that whole thing is so weird that I am wondering what is really going on here. I still am of the mind that it's not what it's being portrayed as being.

    tvccrn
  8. by   TazziRN
    Quote from GM1987
    I know it's not a conclusive result but it's a VERY good indication of what his result will be at the 13 week mark.
    CDC has been conservative throughout - they've dropped their 6 month window period down to 3 months but most antibody tests nowadays detect HIV within 6 weeks as 90%+ seroconvert within 22+ days and only a few will wait until 6 months (but those are usually people with depleted immune systems, undergoing chemo., or are extensive IV drug abusers).
    You have to understand that this is not a MEDICAL situation and perhaps that is why he didn't follow protocol and will not test all the way through 12 months.
    I knew I shouldn't have come back in here..........

    A) Anyone can be tested at any time for HIV....not just after a suspected exposure. In fact, if an exposure is suspected, immediate testing is strongly suggested to verify that the pt is indeed negative now.

    B) Explain how this isn't medical????????
  9. by   Cattitude
    Quote from tazzirn
    i knew i shouldn't have come back in here..........

    a) anyone can be tested at any time for hiv....not just after a suspected exposure. in fact, if an exposure is suspected, immediate testing is strongly suggested to verify that the pt is indeed negative now.

    b) explain how this isn't medical????????
    tazzi darlin', we're not getting the answers we need to hear. i'm really giving up now.
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  10. by   TazziRN




    No wonder I have a headache........
  11. by   GM1987
    He actually got tested a few days later and called me saying he's HIV negative. I had to give him the bad news that catching it is not like getting the flu and that he has to wait it out...
    Getting poked with a "needle" that is stuck on a door handle is nothing compared to getting poked with an actual hypodermic needle/syringe contaminated with actual HIV+ blood. That's what I meant with a medical situation and hence the 0.3% statistic which is given to medical professionals.
    I can imagine that dropping outside of a health care setting - especially since no one has been infected outside of the health care (at least that's what the CDC states).
    Being a student who is pursuing this career rigorously, I took everything as a potential risk and hence my questions.
  12. by   tvccrn
    However, being a student you have an air of not using your critical thinking skills when dealing with your friend.

    1. He got stuck with something sharp and didn't look closely to see what it was.

    2. He didn't tell anyone in the public place where he was stuck with something sharp about it.

    3. He was (?) able to see the clear (?) tape a week later as he was driving by this same facility and still told no one at the facility about it.

    All this points to one of two things: either this is something that didn't really happen or this was a very, very minor thing that has gotten blown way too far out of proportion.

    As a student you should have realized all this by now and had a good talk to your "friend".

    tvccrn
  13. by   TazziRN
    Quote from tvccrn
    However, being a student you have an air of not using your critical thinking skills when dealing with your friend.

    1. He got stuck with something sharp and didn't look closely to see what it was.

    2. He didn't tell anyone in the public place where he was stuck with something sharp about it.

    3. He was (?) able to see the clear (?) tape a week later as he was driving by this same facility and still told no one at the facility about it.

    All this points to one of two things: either this is something that didn't really happen or this was a very, very minor thing that has gotten blown way too far out of proportion.

    As a student you should have realized all this by now and had a good talk to your "friend".

    tvccrn

    :yeahthat: :yeahthat: :yeahthat:

    I didn't have the nerve to say it.

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