Religion's Place in Nursing - page 23

I often read Billy Graham's column and thought today's was particulary pertinent to our profession. I'm just curious as to your own personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. (Please, no... Read More

  1. by   Stitchie
    Quote from Kyriaka
    I am a Greek Orthodox Christian and it is part of who I am. I dont push my faith on other people. If they ask me a question I answer it (my Easter is almost always 2 weeks--5 weeks later than everyone elses so that usually starts a discussion in the workplace).

    But the one thing that just irritates me is people coming up to me (particularly in this part of the country) and saying, "but do you know 100% that you are saved!?"
    Does anyone?
  2. by   leslie :-D
    to be a 'non-christian' is not synonymous with not believing in a God. and i find it disrespectful for anyone to say that you're going to be condemned to hell since you didn't believe in Jesus. and fran, i'm sorry because i do respect you, but for Jesus to be resurrected to give us non-believers another chance is your belief, nothing more and nothing less. i understand 110% what sbchic is saying....i just am having much difficulty in understanding on the absolutism of true christians. why can't people just embrace each others' beliefs knowing that each of us believes in a God? and for those that don't believe in a God, well, that's to be respected also. i just don't understand. and i'm not talking about trying to understand christianity, rather, people's rigidity in what their truth is.
  3. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from earle58
    to be a 'non-christian' is not synonymous with not believing in a God. and i find it disrespectful for anyone to say that you're going to be condemned to hell since you didn't believe in Jesus. and fran, i'm sorry because i do respect you, but for Jesus to be resurrected to give us non-believers another chance is your belief, nothing more and nothing less. i understand 110% what sbchic is saying....i just am having much difficulty in understanding on the absolutism of true christians. why can't people just embrace each others' beliefs knowing that each of us believes in a God? and for those that don't believe in a God, well, that's to be respected also. i just don't understand. and i'm not talking about trying to understand christianity, rather, people's rigidity in what their truth is.
    sorry sbic56, i called you sbchic...

    leslie
  4. by   Kyriaka
    Stitch,

    There are people who know (or think they know) 100%. It is my thought that no one knows a mans heart.

    Your faith is who you are. If someone wants to know what I believe I dont mind saying and if they want to know more about Orthodoxy I will tell them.

    But I believe that your faith should show. You shouldnt have to talk about it. It should show enough for people to want to ask.
  5. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from earle58
    to be a 'non-christian' is not synonymous with not believing in a God. and i find it disrespectful for anyone to say that you're going to be condemned to hell since you didn't believe in Jesus. and fran, i'm sorry because i do respect you, but for Jesus to be resurrected to give us non-believers another chance is your belief, nothing more and nothing less. i understand 110% what sbchic is saying....i just am having much difficulty in understanding on the absolutism of true christians. why can't people just embrace each others' beliefs knowing that each of us believes in a God? and for those that don't believe in a God, well, that's to be respected also. i just don't understand. and i'm not talking about trying to understand christianity, rather, people's rigidity in what their truth is.
    Great post. I believe in God and Jesus. I pray almost every day. However, I do not call myself a christian becaue of the poor character, self-righteousness and intolerance in others' beliefs that I see in so many "christians."

    I have a magnet on my fridge that sums up my feelings. It says "Christians aren't perfect- but they expect you to be."
  6. by   Tweety
    Basically I think religion helps people cope with life period. Not just nursing. A person would be a hypocrite not to have their faith with them at all times, including their time as a nurse.

    I don't think nursing has a higher incidence of Christianity. Christianity is the dominant religion of America.

    I've found nurses to be a bit more tolerant than than other professions. Tolerant of altnerative lifestyles, religions, etc. So that may be why it's so freely discussed and shown here on this bb. (Although there have been many a heated discussion.)
  7. by   camiluvsNURSING
    Could anybody post a reply without being judgmental!!!!....I DID!


    AND SECONDLY..... I am a believer that's why I chose to read the original post and comment, but what I don't understand is If someone is a non-believer atheist or whatever, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CARE TO READ IT?... since it is not something you believe in!
    Last edit by camiluvsNURSING on May 14, '04
  8. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from caminurse
    Could anybody post a reply without being judgmental!!!!....I DID!


    AND SECONDLY..... I am a believer that's why I chose to read the original post and comment, but what I don't understand is If someone is a non-believer atheist or whatever, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CARE TO READ IT?... since it is not something you believe in!
    WHO was judging? and the name of the post is Religion and Nursing; not Christianity and Nursing, BIG difference.
  9. by   ChrisA
    Personally, my deepening religious (and spiritual) life is part of what is propelling me towards nursing. I've essentially been becoming more and more active the Episcopal Church over the last two years, and part of my growing spiritual understanding includes two concepts:
    "God has no hands but our hands, no feet but our feet, no voice but our voices"
    and
    "Your vocation sits in the intersection between that which brings you the most joy, and that which the world most needs"

    So, sitting at my computer desk writing software like I do: is this answering this call? No, not in my heart, it doesn't. Nursing does. So I'm taking a run at it.

    Now, I don't think that one has to be Christian to be a good nurse, nor do I think you have to have a particularly religious or spiritual nature. The important thing is that you're a caring person, capable of operating in a place of love and compassion. The important thing is that you are capable of care. For many, religion helps. It helps me. I'm proud of that. I certainly don't think it's required, and I certainly don't think I have a monopoly on the truth. Does this help answer your question?
  10. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from caminurse
    Could anybody post a reply without being judgmental!!!!....I DID!


    AND SECONDLY..... I am a believer that's why I chose to read the original post and comment, but what I don't understand is If someone is a non-believer atheist or whatever, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CARE TO READ IT?... since it is not something you believe in!
    First, the post is Religion and Nursing, not Christianity and Nursing (which I posted several pages back....but then why would one read the whole thread, as it s so much easier to just jump to conclusions).

    Second, if one reads the OP FULLY AND COMPLETELY. one would see that it is clearly directed at nonChristians, as it offers reasons to believe in Christ and asks at the end, Why not try Christ. As presumable Christians have tried Christ and do not require to have it re-proven to them.

    So maybe you need to check your judgement at the door.

    As noted in the original answers, they were answers as to why Christ was not important to them. Answers quite politely and honestly to that question. I regret that you are not amenable to the answers.
  11. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from dlscott
    I don't understand how a person can be a nurse, see life and death as much as we do and NOT believe in God. Our bodies are miracles....they could never "just happen". I am a hospice nurse and I see death on a daily basis. I will tell you who dies the easiest and most peaceful...the Christians. They have a hope of life beyond and know that though they do not want to leave behind their loved ones, they have a Lord that is waiting to give them wondrous things that their minds could not even imagine. The non-Christians usually die with more pain, angry and have a hard time reconciling the fact that they are dying. I have sat by the bedside of so many people as life as slipped from them.
    First, you chose to quote me, and refer to nurses that do not believe in G-d. That is rather presumptious of you. For if you read the thread, you would realize that I am Jewish and very clearly believe in G-d.

    For that, I think that you owe me an apology...but I doubt that I will receive it.

    And to assume that a Nurse must for some reason, must believe in G-d, well, that is silly. There are plenty of Atheist, Agnostic, Humanist nurses that believe in mankind and life for living's sake, and being good as it is the natural right thing to do, and do not require a G-d to have created it all.

    And I believe that you owe them an apology...but I do not know that it will be forthcoming.

    And as a HIV/Onco nurse, I, too, have seen many die. I have seen plenty of Christians die in emotional turmoil. And I have seen nonBelievers die feeling fulfilled with their lives.
  12. by   caroladybelle
    Religion and Christianity are not the same thing.

    So are you asking about Christianity

    or are you asking about religion and nurse's?
  13. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from caroladybelle
    First, you chose to quote me, and refer to nurses that do not believe in G-d. That is rather presumptious of you. For if you read the thread, you would realize that I am Jewish and very clearly believe in G-d.

    For that, I think that you owe me an apology...but I doubt that I will receive it.

    And to assume that a Nurse must for some reason, must believe in G-d, well, that is silly. There are plenty of Atheist, Agnostic, Humanist nurses that believe in mankind and life for living's sake, and being good as it is the natural right thing to do, and do not require a G-d to have created it all.

    And I believe that you owe them an apology...but I do not know that it will be forthcoming.

    And as a HIV/Onco nurse, I, too, have seen many die. I have seen plenty of Christians die in emotional turmoil. And I have seen nonBelievers die feeling fulfilled with their lives.


    I agree. I was an inpt hospice nurse for four years. In my experience, how much a pain a person died in was a matter of whether or not we could get their doc to prescribe meds appropriatly.

    I also saw many christians die who felt that their disease was a punishment from God for some trasgression. I heard other christians rell dying pts that their faith must have been false, or God would have cured them.

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