Religion's Place in Nursing - page 16

I often read Billy Graham's column and thought today's was particulary pertinent to our profession. I'm just curious as to your own personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. (Please, no... Read More

  1. by   dlmickley
    I firmly feel as you do ....... God rose from the dead and is our salvation; but your words come across hateful and condeming, an attitude that turns people away rather than reaching them. Tolerance and prayer is what is needed here. I realize you may not mean it but you come across as someone who has no love or compassion for those that don't believe as you do. Use your passion for prayer rather than attack and Gods work and word will go much further.



    Quote from jemommy
    I don't want to get banned from posting here so I am going to keep this clean. Jesus rose from the dead. Whether you like it or not. Who cares if you don't believe it? It happened, so get over yourselves because YOU can't do nothing on this earth without GOD. I am a true believer and I know for a fact what the power of God can do because he has performed in my life. All of you people don't have to believe. You just won't enter the Kingdom of God. I guess you don't care either. Well, that's your business. I know whom to serve and I would never question The One above. You all have a right to express your opinion but just know that YOU'RE WRONG, and I don't care who you are or what your profession is :angryfire


    FORGIVE THEM FATHER, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
  2. by   BeachNurse
    I feel that most persons, regardless of their religion, if they are faithful to it, fervently believe that THEIRS is "the" one and only correct one.

    MY religions says there is one G-d, and that I am not allow to pray to anyone who is not G-d. That is what I believe and people of other religions have their own stong beliefs as well. I respect that completely, but could never change my faith.

    I am a kind and decent human being...I have a wonderful family and am so very blessed. Thanks, but no need to pray for me, because I am right where I want to be.
  3. by   jemommyRN
    Quote from dlmickley
    I firmly feel as you do ....... God rose from the dead and is our salvation; but your words come across hateful and condeming, an attitude that turns people away rather than reaching them. Tolerance and prayer is what is needed here. I realize you may not mean it but you come across as someone who has no love or compassion for those that don't believe as you do. Use your passion for prayer rather than attack and Gods work and word will go much further.
    Thank you for your calm words. It just really angers me when people question our precious Lord. Speaking nicely to them won't reach out. Just because i am a christian does that mean that I can't stand up for God (what is right). I'm not going to just let people degrade my Jesus and what He stands for without a fight. I feel as strongly about Him as I do any other member in my family. He is sooo Precious. He's my Savior. I love Him wholeheartedly and someone has to stand up to these NONBELIEVERS. It is not my job to convince them to believe, but it is my DUTY as a christian woman to correct their ignorance when speaking about GOD.
  4. by   dlmickley
    No problem. By our works shall we be known .......... People will see a difference in us as well as our convictions just by kiving as christ lived. I have had the wonderful experience of someone asking me if I was a christian; when I replied YES, they said they could tell because I was "different" if we allow God to work through us people will notice. or actions will speak louder then words sometimes .............

    Quote from jemommy
    Thank you for your calm words. It just really angers me when people question our precious Lord. Speaking nicely to them won't reach out. Just because i am a christian does that mean that I can't stand up for God (what is right). I'm not going to just let people degrade my Jesus and what He stands for without a fight. I feel as strongly about Him as I do any other member in my family. He is sooo Precious. He's my Savior. I love Him wholeheartedly and someone has to stand up to these NONBELIEVERS. It is not my job to convince them to believe, but it is my DUTY as a christian woman to correct their ignorance when speaking about GOD.
  5. by   jemommyRN
    Thank you for being the person that you are. I just blew my cool and I know that I may have offended a lot of people. You understand me That was not my intentions. I am on my journey to build an even stronger relationship with God. I apologize to those who feel as though I stepped out of line. But, you see, for someone to feel that strongly about Him, (for me to react that way) you know He has to be good. He's amazing. You all should try Him.

    Thanks again dlmickley. I admire you
  6. by   FranEMTnurse
    My sentiments exactly. I think that's why the saying, "What goes around comes around" comes from.
    Quote from dlmickley
    No problem. By our works shall we be known .......... People will see a difference in us as well as our convictions just by kiving as christ lived. I have had the wonderful experience of someone asking me if I was a christian; when I replied YES, they said they could tell because I was "different" if we allow God to work through us people will notice. or actions will speak louder then words sometimes .............
  7. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from jemommy
    Thank you for your calm words. It just really angers me when people question our precious Lord. Speaking nicely to them won't reach out. Just because i am a christian does that mean that I can't stand up for God (what is right). I'm not going to just let people degrade my Jesus and what He stands for without a fight. I feel as strongly about Him as I do any other member in my family. He is sooo Precious. He's my Savior. I love Him wholeheartedly and someone has to stand up to these NONBELIEVERS. It is not my job to convince them to believe, but it is my DUTY as a christian woman to correct their ignorance when speaking about GOD.
    you are confusing ignorance with a conscious decision on what someone CHOOSES to believe. i find that most of the posters here that don't believe in the resurrection, are horsewhipping others because they do believe. God gave us free will as well as many other gifts. your judgement of the nonbelievers is intolerant and short sighted. the end result from all of these posts is that morality, acceptance and decency are the virtues that would make any God rejoice. period.
  8. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from earle58
    you are confusing ignorance with a conscious decision on what someone CHOOSES to believe. i find that most of the posters here that don't believe in the resurrection, are horsewhipping others because they do believe. God gave us free will as well as many other gifts. your judgement of the nonbelievers is intolerant and short sighted. the end result from all of these posts is that morality, acceptance and decency are the virtues that would make any God rejoice. period.
    my apologies, i stated something backwards. i find that most of the posters that DO believe in the resurrection, are horsewhipping others because they do NOT believe.
  9. by   FranEMTnurse
    That is exactly why I posted message number 191, The last sentence.
    Quote from earle58
    my apologies, i stated something backwards. i find that most of the posters that DO believe in the resurrection, are horsewhipping others because they do NOT believe.
    Last edit by FranEMTnurse on Apr 23, '04 : Reason: type o I posted the wrong number in my earlier post
  10. by   manna
    I think the whole thing is a two-edged sword. The non-believers will always feel pressured by the Christians because of their "our way is the only way philosophy," and the Christians will always feel persecuted by the non-believers because of their criticism of what seems to them closed-minded.

    Been this way for centuries, I imagine, so I don't think any of us here are going to change it. :chuckle
  11. by   FranEMTnurse
    How very true, manna.
    Quote from manna
    I think the whole thing is a two-edged sword. The non-believers will always feel pressured by the Christians because of their "our way is the only way philosophy," and the Christians will always feel persecuted by the non-believers because of their criticism of what seems to them closed-minded.

    Been this way for centuries, I imagine, so I don't think any of us here are going to change it. :chuckle
  12. by   BeachNurse
    Quote from manna
    I think the whole thing is a two-edged sword. The non-believers will always feel pressured by the Christians because of their "our way is the only way philosophy," and the Christians will always feel persecuted by the non-believers because of their criticism of what seems to them closed-minded.

    Been this way for centuries, I imagine, so I don't think any of us here are going to change it. :chuckle
    Good point. I for one, don't feel "pressured". BTW, the ones who think they can change someone's whole belief system actually push someone like me closer to my faith.
  13. by   Owney
    BeachNurse,

    "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."~Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Are you aware that Emerson was a Universalist minister?
    Did you know that Charles Darwin was a Unitarian?

    There are many U-U Churches that are named Emerson. I heard a Sunday Service at a U-U Church in Tucson last September that consisted of one of Emerson's sermons.

    I'm trying to tell everyone in every post that my religion is the only one that is any good because it consists of any and ALL of the collective wisdom and belief systems for anything worth believing in.

    Being a U-U is like having to deal with an infinite variety of mixed nuts. You have to figure out how to crack the shell, pick out the meat, and leave the shells behind. It is called the religion for the modern thinker because we all have the responsibilty to find our own spiritual path. If you discuss religion with a U-U you will always be given more questions than answers.

    LOVE :kiss

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