Religion's Place in Nursing - page 11

I often read Billy Graham's column and thought today's was particulary pertinent to our profession. I'm just curious as to your own personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. (Please, no... Read More

  1. by   live4today
    amen, amen, and again i say amen!!! :hatparty:

    Quote from chirn
    i often read billy graham's column and thought today's was particulary pertinent to our profession. i'm just curious as to your own personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. (please, no screaming at one another...this is not a debate.)

    dear dr. graham,



    i'd like to be a christian, but i have a hard time believing that jesus rose from the dead. you see, i'm an intensive care nurse, and i know that once a person dies, that's the end. maybe you can help me get past these doubts. -- mrs. k.w.

    dear mrs. k.w.:
    the resurrection of jesus christ from the dead is the most important event in all history -- and yes, incredible as it may seem, it really did happen.

    in fact, it might interest you to know that one of the gospels was written by a medical doctor (luke). like you, he knew that death is final and irreversible -- and yet he also gave us one of the most extensive accounts of jesus' resurrection from the dead. why? because he had thoroughly investigated the evidence for jesus' resurrection for himself and he knew only one conclusion was possible: jesus had come back from the dead.

    why is the resurrection important? why did god raise jesus from the dead? one reason was to prove that jesus was who he said he was: the divine son of god, sent from heaven to save us from our sins. the bible says that he "was declared with power to be the son of god by his resurrection from the dead: jesus christ our lord" (romans 1:4). the resurrection sets jesus apart from every other person who has ever lived.

    but the resurrection points to an even greater truth: death has now been conquered! the grave is not the end, but heaven's doors are now open! jesus is alive, and he wants to come into your life today. why not discover this great truth for yourself by turning to christ today?



    edited to remove the dead link that stretched things past the edge of the screen - hope it makes it easier to read ! - ratched
  2. by   Jaaaman
    Quote from cheerfuldoer
    amen, amen, and again i say amen!!! :hatparty:
    amen!
  3. by   Owney
    TEN GOOD REASONS FOR JOINING A UNITARIAN-UNIVERSALIST CONGREGATION


    Because here we join with open hearts and minds to worship together, seeking what is sacred among us.

    Because here we are a part of a long, liberal tradition of reason and tolerance, of hope and liberation.

    Because here we honor or Jewish and Christian roots, and also reach out to know the great truths found in other religious expressions.

    Because here we acknowledge that revelation is never sealed and empower ourselves to search for new truths.

    Because here we nurture our children's enthusiasms and encourage their qurstions.

    Because Because here we welcome diverse people and views.

    Because here we join our strength with others to create a more just society.

    Because here we respect the whole self--mind, body, and spirit working together.

    Because here we encourage each other to be true to ourselves.

    Because here we build a supportive community that eases or lonliness and opens our hearts.

    _______________________

    by Bill and Barbara Hamilton-Holway and Mark Harris


    Unitarian-Universalist Association of Congregations
    25 Beacon Street
    Boston, MA 02108-2800

    Canadian Unitarian Council
    705-55 Eglinton Avenue East
    Toronto, ON M4P 1G8

  4. by   nursemjb
    Quote from topcat1234
    jesus has approved of such a stance. he himself said "i am the way, the truth and the life. no one can get to the father except by means of me." john 14:6

    topcat
    amen topcat.......why won't people understand this......they must believe in jesus to go to heaven.
  5. by   tinnekke
    Quote from J Lynn
    I'm not sure how to respond to all these posts. It saddens me. I'm not going to start a debate only because as a Christian, I don't like to argue about religion. Some people just don't get it. If you are seeking peace in your life, then try doing it without Jesus, and let me know how it's working for you.
    Speaking as a non-Christian, I'm doing very well, thank you. I'm quite at peace, and my life is right where I want it to be. While I respect your right to your religious beliefs, it would behoove you to recognize that others have their own beliefs, and that they are just as valid for them as yours are for you.
  6. by   nursemjb
    Quote from tinnekke
    Speaking as a non-Christian, I'm doing very well, thank you. I'm quite at peace, and my life is right where I want it to be. While I respect your right to your religious beliefs, it would behoove you to recognize that others have their own beliefs, and that they are just as valid for them as yours are for you.
    In the Great Commission Jesus said to preach the gospel to every creature......he also said not to be ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to those who believe.
  7. by   tinnekke
    Quote from nursemjb
    In the Great Commission Jesus said to preach the gospel to every creature......he also said not to be ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to those who believe.
    That really has nothing to do with whether or not someone can find peace in her life without Jesus. She said to try findong peace without him and tell her how you do. So I told her that I am doing quite well. I am happy for those who have a fulfilling spiritual life as Christians. I am pleased that it works for them. My path works just as well for me. Implying that I cannot find peace without following a particular path is a touch insulting. I didn't say anything about Christians needing to be ashamed of their gospels, nor did I condemn proselytizing. I only stated that I found peace on my spiritual path and that I would thank her to remember that it is possible. She is welcome to her path, I just wish to be left in peace on mine by those who feel that they are the sole keepers of truth.
  8. by   nursemjb
    Quote from tinnekke
    That really has nothing to do with whether or not someone can find peace in her life without Jesus. She said to try findong peace without him and tell her how you do. So I told her that I am doing quite well. I am happy for those who have a fulfilling spiritual life as Christians. I am pleased that it works for them. My path works just as well for me. Implying that I cannot find peace without following a particular path is a touch insulting. I didn't say anything about Christians needing to be ashamed of their gospels, nor did I condemn proselytizing. I only stated that I found peace on my spiritual path and that I would thank her to remember that it is possible. She is welcome to her path, I just wish to be left in peace on mine by those who feel that they are the sole keepers of truth.
    It's not life here that I'm talking about, it's eternity.......there's a verse that says God has put eternity into the minds of men. I just am sharing the hope that I have......maybe not very well......
  9. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from nursemjb
    It's not life here that I'm talking about, it's eternity.......there's a verse that says God has put eternity into the minds of men. I just am sharing the hope that I have......maybe not very well......
    And as a nonChristian, my belief in my eternity is perfectly peaceful also. There is no need to be Christian to ensure a happy afterlife.

    At least that is what I wholeheartedly believe...and you are not likely to change that with the same rhetoric that I, as a nonchristian get beaten of the head with, day in and day out.

    You believe what you believe and I believe what I believe.

    Amen to that.
  10. by   marcrivera
    Hell this is my first time logging in and replying to anything so I hope I am doing this right. Well I read this and I think that it touched my heart. See I am a firm believer of christ but I have been back sliding for awhile now. Me reading this made me realize the importance of my god and what he means to me so I would like to share that testimony. I think its great that nurses can come together and talk about religion. Well I pray that everyone will let god work in their lives. Thanks a bunch for hearing me out.
    Marc
    Quote from CHIRN
    I often read Billy Graham's column and thought today's was particulary pertinent to our profession. I'm just curious as to your own personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. (Please, no screaming at one another...this is not a debate.)

    Dear Dr. Graham,



    I'd like to be a Christian, but I have a hard time believing that Jesus rose from the dead. You see, I'm an intensive care nurse, and I know that once a person dies, that's the end. Maybe you can help me get past these doubts. -- Mrs. K.W.

    Dear Mrs. K.W.:
    The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is the most important event in all history -- and yes, incredible as it may seem, it really did happen.

    In fact, it might interest you to know that one of the Gospels was written by a medical doctor (Luke). Like you, he knew that death is final and irreversible -- and yet he also gave us one of the most extensive accounts of Jesus' resurrection from the dead. Why? Because he had thoroughly investigated the evidence for Jesus' resurrection for himself and he knew only one conclusion was possible: Jesus had come back from the dead.

    Why is the resurrection important? Why did God raise Jesus from the dead? One reason was to prove that Jesus was who He said He was: the divine Son of God, sent from heaven to save us from our sins. The Bible says that He "was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 1:4). The resurrection sets Jesus apart from every other person who has ever lived.

    But the resurrection points to an even greater truth: Death has now been conquered! The grave is not the end, but heaven's doors are now open! Jesus is alive, and He wants to come into your life today. Why not discover this great truth for yourself by turning to Christ today?



    Edited to remove the dead link that stretched things past the edge of the screen - hope it makes it easier to read ! - Ratched
  11. by   missmercy
    The responses to this thread are pretty typical and representative of the views of society as a whole. There are many (like me)who believe with every fiber of their being that Jesus was (and is) the one and only Son of God, sent to earth to pay the punishment for the sins of all men . Who was raised from the dead in eveidence of God's acceptance of Christ's sacrifice as payment in full for the sins of all -- allowing all people access to heaven and eternal life through him. And, there are many who are just as firm in hteir beilefs that there is no God, no heaven or hell. It's Biblical that there is such a widerange of responses -- "the things of God are unexplanable to men"....
    So, yes, you are all intitled to your beliefs!! As those of us who believe in the Bible etc are. And while I am not going to preach anymore, I will be praying for you ( and me) and all of us that God will be glorified through all circumstances and situations.
  12. by   Energizer Bunny
    Ya'll, how about a thread for Christians to debate, unite and pray for each other? What do you think?
  13. by   Energizer Bunny
    http://allnurses.com/forums/showthre...870#post735870

    I started this thread for Christians....I don't know if anyone is interested, but there it is!

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