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No. 10
from Faeriewand
Old Nov 07, 2009, 12:05 PM

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I have been asked to be a reference for a few friends and I agreed. I was surprised however when the potential employer left me a message and asked me to call THEM! Isn't it the other way around? Well I did call back and left a message all about my friend and I guess that was good enough. But now in the future I am prepared to call back especially after reading this post I can see that is the way it is sometimes.

I think you have received some good advice here. And I do believe your manager thinks she shouldn't have to call anyone back. That's what I thought at first too.

And to the other poster RE passive aggressive behavor. Both men and women equally display this characteristic. I have seen it! LOL
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No. 11
from caliotter3
Old Nov 07, 2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ghillbert View Post
Ask your manager to let you know honestly if she's not willing to give you the reference. If she is, ask her availability and have the new company call her at that time. I don't think it's her responsibility to call them.

Otherwise, find another referee. A preceptor, maybe?
I agree that it is not her responsibility to call these people back. And although it is probably a passive aggressive action on her part, she is letting everyone know that she does not appreciate giving up any of her time to assist an employee to find work elsewhere. I would discuss this with future prospective employers and ask them if you could use alternate references. That is about all you can do, unless they continue to call until they get the woman on the line. Good luck.
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No. 12
Old Nov 07, 2009, 12:14 PM

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I think her track record is a proof that she will not call and will not be a good reference for another employer. And you said it too, you lost jobs because of that attitude of hers. If she did that before, why would you still insist on making her a reference? Didn’t you get the drift? I think it’s not uncommon that bosses would not feel good when an employee wants to leave-----especially if they are really good employees.
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No. 13
from caliotter3
Old Nov 07, 2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by caringnursenj View Post
I think her track record is a proof that she will not call and will not be a good reference for another employer. And you said it too, you lost jobs because of that attitude of hers. If she did that before, why would you still insist on making her a reference? Didn’t you get the drift? I think it’s not uncommon that bosses would not feel good when an employee wants to leave-----especially if they are really good employees.
Totally agree. When I found out that a previous manager, after giving me his word that he would be a good reference, was in fact seeing that I couldn't get work, I immediately stopped using his name for a reference.
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No. 14
Old Nov 07, 2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by caringnursenj View Post
I think her track record is a proof that she will not call and will not be a good reference for another employer. And you said it too, you lost jobs because of that attitude of hers. If she did that before, why would you still insist on making her a reference? Didn’t you get the drift? I think it’s not uncommon that bosses would not feel good when an employee wants to leave-----especially if they are really good employees.
I dont give her name by choice....they ask to speak to my current manager
I will update when something else happens. I did email her, since I hardly see her, and asked her nicely for a reference, and said that I understood she was not obligated to give one and if she was unable to do it, then I would no longer provide her name. I was also praising her and the job and letting her know I was not looking for other employment b/c of the job-just b/c i need better hours.

I plan on calling interviewer on MOnday afternoon and if she hasn't heard from current manager, offer up other references-charge nurses, coworkers, etc

wish me luck
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No. 15
Old Nov 07, 2009, 05:53 PM

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I have always explained that I would prefer they not call my current manager (except in one case where the position was being eliminated). This is not because I don't think I will not get a decent reference, but more because I am concerned that it will create bad feelings at work. I use other RNs who work with me, school, and previous jobs. If it comes down to needed to confirm dates of employment for a job, I will allow them to do that. Most recruiters/HR folks and managers understand. If they don't, I probably don't want to work with them.
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